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Putin deployed more than 80k troops just across border - and Kremlin-backed TV warns nation is 'one step away' from war
Daily Mail ^ | April 12 2021 | Henry Martin

Posted on 04/12/2021 7:26:10 PM PDT by Broker

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To: McGruff

121 posted on 04/13/2021 9:07:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ETL
ussia and communist China are on a joint mission to push us aside and establish a "new international order"! KGB/FSB Putin's main ambition in life is to restore the Soviet Union, or something damn close to it.

Our corrupt foreign policy and the left are as, if not far more, responsible for the hostile relationship with Moscow.

We do everything we can to undermine Russia and spends billions and billions to do so. We embrace, support and arm their enemies, even encouraging revolutions like the one in Ukraine in 2014. We intervene in countries like Syria and associate with Muslim jihadists in order to undermine Russia.

We have driven Russia to associate with our enemies even though, domestically, Russia is far more like the United States and Europe. In fact, Russia is pretty close to being the kind of country Ronald Reagan envisioned it could if we would stop trying to cripple it economically.

122 posted on 04/13/2021 9:11:01 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Wallace T.
Conservative anger at the Left's escalating war against American institutions and even common decency will likely lead to a replication of the "better Hitler than Blum" attitude of the French Right in the 1930s.

Poor analogy, Putin is no threat to invade the US, as Hitler was to invade France.

123 posted on 04/13/2021 9:11:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t see Putin or any successor Russian or Chinese invading the U.S. directly, as shown in the first Red Dawn movie. However, the leftist domination of the Federal government and most civil and cultural institutions alienates the sort of men who have fought this nation’s wars from the War for Independence through the Iraq and Afghan conflicts. I don’t believe that the Alvin Yorks, Audie Murphys, Carlos Hathcocks, or Chris Kyles of this generation would respond to the likes of Joe Biden or Kamala Harris calling for a patriotic response if we become involved in Ukraine or Taiwan.


124 posted on 04/13/2021 9:29:02 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

Our enemies are within.


125 posted on 04/13/2021 9:29:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
The Biden administration, Hollywood, and major universities are among our domestic enemies. These institutions are heavily influenced by Chinese money. The Alex Jones type conspiracists who see the Deep State as wanting to establish a New World Order dominated by Western capitalists are partially correct. However, the Chinese and the Russians do not respect these putative masters of the universe, and fully intend to establish their own hegemony. Bill Gates, George Soros, and other left leaning Western financial leaders are seen by Xi and Biden as delusional and useful idiots.
126 posted on 04/13/2021 9:40:36 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: ETL
I've been trying to avoid engaging you, because I dislike being unpleasant to people without being able to see their face. Honestly though, I don't understand why you are so anti-Russian to the point of not being able to use logic. Even the long streams of articles that you post are non-sensical and are obviously structured the way they are from a biased perspective.

You post crap complaining that Russia aligns with China and other 'adversaries', and seem to be wholly surprised that Russia acts to further its interests, finding other partners when the USA and NATO continue to break promises and militarily push, push, push against their borders.

If the US had kept to Reagan's promise not to expand NATO borders (or even better, had dissolved NATO after the Soviet collapse), the geopolitical scene would be very different.

Imagine if China took over Mexican politics with massive donations, supplies of military weapons, etc. and decided to mass their troops on the US southern border. Do you suppose that the US would simply go "oh well, Mexico is sovereign, there is nothing we can do?".

I theorize that you are stuck in a Cold War mentality, and cannot break out of this thought cycle. Russia is no longer Communist, and it is time to get over it. I've lived in modern Russia, I have property and assets in Russia. This stuff is safer than equivalents would be in the USA. There is no sign of Communism. Lets move on.

127 posted on 04/13/2021 10:12:23 AM PDT by billakay
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To: billakay
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Donald Trump: 'Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time'

Mar 13, 2014
Eun Kyung Kim: TODAY SHOW (NBC)

Donald Trump slammed President Obama Thursday on TODAY for failing to take a stronger line against President Vladimir Putin in dealing with Ukraine, saying he feared Obama would now make up for lost time with imprudent moves to "show his manhood."

The real estate mogul and reality-TV star, who has criticized Putin for sending military troops into Crimea, said Obama must now take fierce steps to prevent the situation from escalating further.

"We should definitely do sanctions and we have to show some strengths. I mean, Putin has eaten Obama's lunch, therefore our lunch, for a long period of time," Trump said. ..."

http://www.today.com/news/donald-trump-putin-has-eaten-obamas-lunch-ukraine-2D79372098
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Here’s the interview w/ Matt Lauer on YouTube...

Donald Trump (2014): ‘Vladimir Putin Has Eaten Obama’s Lunch’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzURUENf1ns

128 posted on 04/13/2021 10:54:02 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! China-Russia collusion! Click ETL...)
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To: billakay
Besides your Russian comrades scheming with communist China, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and other various hard left dictatorships throughout Latin America, there is their firm support of communist North Korea.

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2015...

Russia and North Korea declare 2015 a ‘year of friendship’

“The biggest cause for concern is the growing military alliance between Russia and North Korea, with the two regimes recently announcing plans to conduct a series of joint army, navy and air force exercises this year.”

—Julian Ryall, Tokyo - Mar 11, 2015 - The Telegraph

129 posted on 04/13/2021 11:01:17 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! China-Russia collusion! Click ETL...)
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To: ETL

Secessionist Yugoslav Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim factions waged dirty wars against each other, neglecting to first wipe out the 9% of the population that attempted to do away with religion in Yugoslavia, proving the wars were orchestrated and controlled by the communist faction.

interesting...


130 posted on 04/13/2021 11:38:12 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there is no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: ETL

Just know that I don’t read any of your ‘regurgitated’ lengthy postings regarding Ukraine or Russia , which have time and again been plastered across threads. I have my own resources both historically, politically and current far more reliable and without bias.


131 posted on 04/13/2021 11:55:48 AM PDT by caww ( because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt:24:12)
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To: ETL

Yet again your repeating yourself.


132 posted on 04/13/2021 11:57:05 AM PDT by caww ( because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt:24:12)
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To: tlozo
You've missed the point. It doesn't take a lot of brain matter to understand Ukraine's Border with Russia.....nor the demographics all around Russia's borders.
133 posted on 04/13/2021 11:59:43 AM PDT by caww ( because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt:24:12)
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To: caww

Nothing wrong with a Velvet Divorce, as happened with Czechoslovakia.


134 posted on 04/13/2021 12:00:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ETL
And what? Russia shares a physical border with North Korea. Again, you seem to be faulting Russia for looking out for its national security interests.

The USA is not the only country that is allowed to have alliances and care about their national and economic security. Every time the USA refuses to acknowledge Russian interests and try to negotiate fair compromises, we push them into further relations with the rest of the world.

You also seem to like to pretend that Ukrainians are somehow "good guys". Their government is hopelessly corrupt, filled with opportunists who are willing to do the bidding of anyone who shows up with a bag of money. The world would be a lot safer if Ukraine were under Russian administration. At least you would know that Russian interests would be primary, rather than having someone's wallet in that position.

135 posted on 04/13/2021 2:12:57 PM PDT by billakay
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To: caww; ETL; Thunder90

Historical because you say so? You don’t read ETL’s stuff because it completely dismantles your entire Alt-Right Neo-fascist Putin narrative.
Russia, has no more of a legal claim to Crimea-Ukraine and the Baltic republic; than Mexico does to the Sovereign states, of California Texas and the entire SouthWest region by your logic we should give them all back to Mexico while giving Russia back our Cold War victory.

While we’re at China the South Pacific Islam their pice of the pie etc et. Appeasement for all my question to you nationalist populist there’s a war in your mind man Non-interventionist for whom will you have commerce with if Russia China and all their proxies controls everything?


136 posted on 04/14/2021 11:06:03 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: StoneWall Brigade
I don't read ETL’s stuff because I don't need to read cold war talking points regurgitated and copying and pasted time and time again. Nor have exchanges with those of cold war mentalities. It's fruitless. It's like trying to have a discussion with the left calling you a racist all the time. If you don't agree with you guys then you're an "Alt-Right Neo-Fascist".........and that's just what the left does....so no thank you.
137 posted on 04/14/2021 12:58:24 PM PDT by caww ( because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt:24:12)
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To: caww; StoneWall Brigade; Thunder90
I don't read ETL’s stuff because I don't need to read cold war talking points regurgitated and copying and pasted time and time again. Nor have exchanges with those of cold war mentalities.

It's your boy KGB/FSB Putin who's trying to bring back the Soviet era, with his aggressive, expansionist actions in Ukraine and elsewhere. His continual propping up of hard left regimes like Venezuela, Cuba, other Latin American dictatorships, North Korea, Iran. Their huge and increasingly serious military alliance with communist China.

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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...

"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'..."

"The more I see and read about Mr. Putin, in power since 1999, and his 'managed democracy,' the more apprehensive I become about the future of Russia and the safety of its neighbors.

If Putin believes that the dissolution of the Soviet Union into 15 independent states represents the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,' then it follows that Putin might well believe he should do something to repair the loss..."

http://web.archive.org/web/20090415000000*/http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html
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"Putin said Stalin deserves statues in his honor"

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131219/185734707/Putin-Says-Stalin-No-Worse-Than-Cunning-Oliver-Cromwell.html

138 posted on 04/14/2021 8:03:43 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! China-Russia collusion! Click ETL...)
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To: ETL

pftt!


139 posted on 04/14/2021 8:08:54 PM PDT by caww ( because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt:24:12)
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To: caww

Drop dead, you Putin butt kisser. You’re sick in the head.


140 posted on 04/14/2021 8:36:08 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! China-Russia collusion! Click ETL...)
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