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First off, not interested in being on a "side" in this debate that has been raging everywhere, except to say that I have had doubts on this mRNA gene therapy as opposed to more traditional methods.

Based on articles regarding previous animal trials regarding SARS, this article, among other articles that have been popping up the last few months, makes me raise an eyebrow.

Taking the shot is one's own decision. However, if what is raised in the article pans out, and in the near future people start exhibiting reactions....Given the lying (a LOT of lying), the attempts to make it mandatory-while-not-making-it- mandatory, no liability....

Don't be surprised if people decide to start taking it out of the hides of the likes of Fauci, media, and your neighborhood Karen.

1 posted on 04/12/2021 6:26:02 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe
This sounds familiar from the past, history repeating itself. I remember studies of the original SARs Vaccine trials on animals.

I also remember reading last year, people in Wuhan who have receive the experimental vaccine during the previous SARs outbreak had a worst reaction to the Covid-19 then the people who have not received that experimental vaccine. I must wonder if the high death rate and videos of people falling over in the streets were those people.

From 2003: China to begin testing SARS vaccine
Note: I believe this test site was Wuhan

From: 2005 Jab against one strain might worsen infection with others.

Have you every wonder how they develop the vaccine for Covid-19 so fast? Could they have used the SARS vaccine that was developed over 10 years ago.
2 posted on 04/12/2021 6:43:13 AM PDT by DEPcom (Impeach Illegitimate Biden/Harris )
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To: Tench_Coxe

Some people like vaccines.
Some people don’t like vaccines.

People who take vaccines ought to feel a high level of protection against certain diseases.
People who don’t take vaccines are taking their chances with certain diseases.

Why should I be forced to take any vaccine?
Who am I putting in danger?

If you want to feel a high level of protection against certain diseases, then you should take the vaccine. That’s on you.
Forcing me to take medicine so that you can somehow feel safer is tyranny and it pains me that some people don’t see that.


3 posted on 04/12/2021 6:45:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: Tench_Coxe

it uniquely affects those who have been vaccinated (around eight times higher) than those who have not received the vaccine — 5.4% to 0.7%.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hmmm .... this sounds like it’s headed in the direction that some folks have been warning about.


4 posted on 04/12/2021 6:46:15 AM PDT by Qiviut (2020 Election steal result: We are beginning our "40 years of wandering in the Wilderness".)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Hurry Up and get stuck ! It’s safe ......


5 posted on 04/12/2021 6:48:11 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Now, you will be the good guy if you never were vaccinated.

When will the majority of humans smell this stinky rat and rise against it?

I know if you have been vaccinated you will need to hide in your homes and wear triple masks. See, was it all worth it?


6 posted on 04/12/2021 6:49:05 AM PDT by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: Tench_Coxe
Not only could the variant “break through” protections offered by the Pfizer vaccine, but it uniquely affects those who have been vaccinated (around eight times higher) than those who have not received the vaccine — 5.4% to 0.7%. The South Africa variant is generally rare, making up only about 1% of all coronavirus infections.

Really disappointed in the lack of information in this article. We could be, probably are, talking infinitesimal percentages here. If the SA variant ( it's once again OK to use country of origin if it's not China) makes up 1% of the infections, does this test group of 400 represent that 1%? So with the vaccine you are somewhat (8x) more likely to be in the 1% infected? So what, your chances are 99.8 not 99.9% safe? And what was the make-up of this 400 test group, what conditions did they have?

7 posted on 04/12/2021 6:52:31 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I think that is not exactly what the researchers said. Although it may be what someone in the (fake news) media said.

https://en-lifesci.tau.ac.il/sbcr/news/variant/4550

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.06.21254882v1

Nevertheless, the B.1.351 incidence in Israel to-date remains low and vaccine effectiveness remains high against B.1.1.7, among those fully vaccinated. These results overall suggest that vaccine breakthrough infection is more frequent with both VOCs, yet a combination of mass-vaccination with two doses coupled with non-pharmaceutical interventions control and contain their spread.

8 posted on 04/12/2021 6:55:34 AM PDT by Sooth2222 (“Taxation without representation is tyranny.” -James Otis (1761))
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Stick ‘em .... but what you say .... you will be a guinea pig and like it ..... here now put that mask back on after you are stuck and experimented with


10 posted on 04/12/2021 6:56:52 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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We should shut down the country and make people wear masks


11 posted on 04/12/2021 7:05:53 AM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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When they say the vaccinated group is “affected more” than the unvaccinated group do they mean symptoms are more severe or just that the vaccinated group is more likely to test positive for the variant? Getting the chicken pox vaccine puts the chicken pox virus in your bloodstream and would cause you to test positive for chicken pox even though you show no symptoms, by the way.


12 posted on 04/12/2021 7:05:54 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: Tench_Coxe

Don’t don’t don’t don’t believe the hype!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9vQaVIoEjOM


17 posted on 04/12/2021 7:22:26 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (Fraud !!! Now we’re off the TRUMP TRAIN and on the Swamp express to communist hell !! TRUTH! )
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To: Tench_Coxe
The 2012 Coronavirus Vaccine study showed immunopathology, or hypersensitivity to future Coronaviruses, is a “feature” of these vaccines. If they knew this in advance, the question is...”why did they choose to administer them to the ENTIRE WORLD!?!

Worldwide induced immunopathology would give a significant amount of control over everyone...except those pesky vaccine hesitant people.
20 posted on 04/12/2021 7:27:51 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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its part of the plan im sure ..


23 posted on 04/12/2021 7:37:05 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd ((>> ☼ << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Tench_Coxe

There is much we do not know about this vaccine. I would say there is more that we DO NOT KNOW than we do know.

Below is a link to one scientist being interviewed who expects the mass vaccination to lead to exactly what this article talks about — uncontrolled varients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc

Is he correct? I don’t know, but we sure seem to be heading in the direction he describes.

You can get vaccinated — I’m sure not!


25 posted on 04/12/2021 7:52:48 AM PDT by icclearly
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26 posted on 04/12/2021 7:54:07 AM PDT by Slyfox
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mRNA vaccine animal tests have shown disturbing results: Incapable of preventing viral infection, binding antibodies can instead trigger paradoxical immune enhancement. What that means is that it looks good until you get the disease, and then it makes the disease far worse than it would have been otherwise. Animal tests of mRNA vaccines were run in 2006 and 2014, when the animals were exposed to the viruses a few months later, they fooking DIED!
35 posted on 04/12/2021 9:00:23 AM PDT by null and void (The media decides what news you can see and NOT SEE. But don't you dare call 'em Not-Sees)
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To: Tench_Coxe

This tells me that those who get these mRNA vaccines should do more to enhance to enhance their immune systems, not less ... by that I mean adhere to a vitamin D and zinc ‘’protocol’’.


38 posted on 04/12/2021 10:36:01 AM PDT by Jackson Brown (Accomplished without a barrier.)
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