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Police accused of threatening, pulling gun on Black Army lieutenant during Virginia traffic stop
NBC News ^ | 4/10/2021 | David Li

Posted on 04/11/2021 11:37:08 AM PDT by wastedyears

Virginia police pulled guns on a Black Army officer during a traffic stop and threatened to execute him in a parking lot, according to the serviceman's lawsuit and video of the encounter.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: army; banglist; blackarmy; clickbait; excerpt; opportunisticmedia; police; racecard; selectivenamigofrace; theblackarmy; virginia
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To: PoeToaster
So, the next time you get pulled over for no reason, you want a cop telling you that you should be afraid to exit the vehicle? You’re not really a friend of liberty.

Exactly. So many Americans on all sides of the political spectrum are far too eager to bow down to the would-be stormtrooper types.
41 posted on 04/11/2021 12:25:26 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: PoeToaster

I’m not excusing the cops behavior nor am I giving the driver a pass. He was disobeying a lawful police order and was argumentative. He was deliberately antagonistic and directly questioning their orders.

If he had exited the vehicle when asked and shown his credentials as requested he would have been on his way in 5 minutes.


42 posted on 04/11/2021 12:26:37 PM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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To: wastedyears
So according to Nothing But Crap's angle, the guy is owed a complete explanation of why he should comply after he drove an extra mile from where the cops lit up and after he refused to get out of the car?

Maybe they cut the video off before anything really bad was said (I doubt it, though) but what I heard was the officers repeatedly telling him to get out of the car or he was about to ride the lightening (get tased). When he told them he was a lieutenant, they said he should then understand following an order. Since when did it become the “norm” that a negotiation must take place in order for someone to leave their vehicle? Also, given that the guy kept driving, how were the cops supposed to determine he wasn't buying time to either ditch the car, hide a weapon or drugs?

43 posted on 04/11/2021 12:30:11 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Zuriel

*** Did the cops use the exact words “we’re going to execute you”? ***

“If someone pointing a gun at me says, “You’re fixing to ride the lightning” which is what one officer yelled, and is clearly audible on the full video, I will take that as a threat of his threat/intention/ desire to kill me.


44 posted on 04/11/2021 12:32:57 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: Tom in SFCA

Why would an Army junior officer risk his career for a payout? Would a lieutenant in the other branches do that too? Navy, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard, Space Force?


45 posted on 04/11/2021 12:33:13 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: sockmonkey

I doubt 1 person in 50,000 knows the meaning of that expression. I’m almost 80 yrs old and ex military who served in Texas and I never heard it.


46 posted on 04/11/2021 12:34:55 PM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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To: Newbomb Turk

‘Conflicting orders’ is how they get away with killing people with zero consequences.


47 posted on 04/11/2021 12:35:43 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Newbomb Turk
In what way was he uncooperative ?

The Army officer didn't immediately get down on his hands and knees and lick-shine the officers' boots.

48 posted on 04/11/2021 12:36:57 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: puppypusher
This is B.S..I saw the video of the incident on Liveleak and there was No threat of executing the Lt. at all.

One of them did say "you're fixin' to ride the lightning." That's a euphemism for the electric chair.

49 posted on 04/11/2021 12:38:15 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Tom in SFCA

“You need to watch the video. The things you say are false.”

I stated that I watched the entire video of the incident and observed officers that were overbearing on a felony stop of a Parked vehicle at a gas station.

As an officer I can see taking care of a potentially dangerous interaction of a moving violation.But this incident was not that.

The officers from what I recall didn’t tell the driver why they were there and would answer NO questions.

If the driver were threatening I would agree to pull him out of the vehicle with reasonable force.

These Officers were Not one thing and that’s being diplomatic. Which is something a lot of P.D.s to day are tring to instill in their officers.

You would know this if you ever served in that capacity.


50 posted on 04/11/2021 12:39:32 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: liberalh8ter

*** after he drove an extra mile from where the cops lit up and after he refused to get out of the car? ***

He drove two minutes to a well lit place where it was safe to stop, and would likely be witnesses/ security cams. Pretty smart for his safety, and that of the officers.

In my area of TX more than a few LEO’s have been run over, and killed by motorists driving past a traffic stop on an unsafe shoulder of the road.


51 posted on 04/11/2021 12:39:47 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: taxcontrol

THANK YOU for your very reasonable answer.


52 posted on 04/11/2021 12:40:43 PM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: Tom in SFCA
We are losing our liberty because of unintelligent, ignorant, and dishonest people who don’t understand civilization.

We're losing our liberty because communists infiltrated government, education, media, entertainment, and "law enforcement" traded in their brown shirts for blue.

53 posted on 04/11/2021 12:41:33 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: billyboy15
This jerk was looking for a confrontation and a payday.

Why would an Army junior officer risk his career for a payday? I would imagine junior officers aren't in the "good ol' boys club."

54 posted on 04/11/2021 12:43:22 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: fightin kentuckian

I didn’t write the article, just posted it.


55 posted on 04/11/2021 12:46:48 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: wastedyears

How much do you think the military gets paid? No one in the services ever gets rich or even moderately wealthy on what they pay. And with the disrespect for authority he showed he won’t get far. He is the type who will scream prejudice at the drop of a hat.


56 posted on 04/11/2021 12:47:43 PM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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To: liberalh8ter
or he was about to ride the lightening (get tased).

That is NOT what 'ride the lightning' means.

57 posted on 04/11/2021 12:50:18 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: wastedyears

NBC doing all they can to stir the pot. Had this guy acted like a commissioned officer, none of this would be in the news. He chose to ignore and he ended up with a face full of pepper and hands in cuffs. But all ended well much to the hatred of NBC.


58 posted on 04/11/2021 12:52:21 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: billyboy15

Same here. I didn’t see a temporary tag. I have it on a large screen.

I have to admit, I would be confused if I was told to keep my hands outside the window, and to open the door and unbuckle my seat belt. If the door was locked, I couldn’t open it using the outside door handle.

But I would never keep telling a police officer I don’t have to do what he told me to do, and that he has no right to touch me.


59 posted on 04/11/2021 12:52:21 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: \/\/ayne
They have formation every working day!

I never stood in a formation on active duty after I'd left Oakland Army Terminal. That no formation thing was more than 3 years.

60 posted on 04/11/2021 12:52:32 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The first two boxes failed. Only one remains.)
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