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How a shocking environmental disaster was uncovered off the California coast after 70 years
CBS NEWS ^ | APRIL 11, 2021 | JEFF BERARDELLI

Posted on 04/11/2021 7:44:38 AM PDT by deport

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
We used to run in the clouds of it being sprayed in Wildwood NJ every summer. It was fun.

It was oversold as the greatest environmental threat of all time. Rachel Carson was a leader in getting it banned, allegedly to save birds of prey, but even the danger to them was never proven.

A few million kids in Africa died from malaria once DDT was banned, but the do-gooders felt they did good.

21 posted on 04/11/2021 8:04:48 AM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPC8zB-JPSg)
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To: deport

If you read the entire story, they manage to tie “climate change” into the last paragraph.


22 posted on 04/11/2021 8:05:11 AM PDT by damper99
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To: deport

In the last paragraph he equates dumping DDT in the ocean with global warming. Right there he lost me.


23 posted on 04/11/2021 8:05:15 AM PDT by Dennis M.
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If the barrels were full of incompressible liquids they would not collapse under water pressure.


24 posted on 04/11/2021 8:05:58 AM PDT by MercyFlush (Senator Joseph McCarthy was right. )
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To: deport

The solution to pollution is dilution.


25 posted on 04/11/2021 8:07:05 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: billyboy15
I also don't believe DDT was thought to be harmful to anything except insects at that time.

It still is not.

Now it might bother lobsters and crabs as they have an exoskeleton.

But anything with an endoskeleton will not be harmed. Not sure about turtles as they have both.

26 posted on 04/11/2021 8:10:20 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It’s, it’s it’s like Fukashima and Pearl Harbor and Chernoybl and 9/11 and Yellowstone all rolled into one. OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 04/11/2021 8:10:21 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: damper99; Dennis M.
The last paragraph is a general warning to take care of the earth for us, our kids, and grandkids. I doubt many of us dispute that. He uses climate change as an example and it's only one short sentence in the entire otherwise fine article. It seems every writer has to toss that in to sustain his or her bona fides. It's no big deal.
While there are still many unanswered questions, one lesson from this story of DDT contamination is clear: When humans callously pollute the environment it can have consequences for generations to come. One current example is human-caused climate change. The question is, how much of a burden will our children and grandchildren have to bear as result of our choices?

28 posted on 04/11/2021 8:11:38 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The Weak Never Started, The Cowards fail along the way, Only the Strong Survive)
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To: MercyFlush

You are right about incompressible liquid. Thanks for pointing that out.

I was thinking they were getting rid of granulated solids with an interstitial air space of maybe 10% or 20%, not liquids.

If it is liquid waste, the barrels might have been filled to maybe 90% or 95% of capacity leaving a small air space about the liquid.

Not much compressible gas in either case, but enough to cause some crushing of the barrels, I suppose.


29 posted on 04/11/2021 8:16:12 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The Weak Never Started, The Cowards fail along the way, Only the Strong Survive)
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To: deport

Perhaps the reason for the dead gray whales around San Francisco?

The deaths are not linked to Global Warming, after all?


30 posted on 04/11/2021 8:16:15 AM PDT by V K Lee (Resist, we will! Remember, we must!)
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To: VTenigma

The solution to pollution is dilution.

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Well the ocean provide a few gallons for dilution.... LOL


31 posted on 04/11/2021 8:18:29 AM PDT by deport ( )
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To: deport

I remember a few decades ago when a damaged ship with diesel fuel on board was purposely sunk in deep water. So deep and cold the diesel would congeal and not leak out.


32 posted on 04/11/2021 8:22:03 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: deport

Tempestuous teapottius

The researcher is searching for grant money


33 posted on 04/11/2021 8:22:30 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Seems to me they’ll inevitably find crushed barrels with materials that fit your description. Just wanted to offer an explanation for the barrels that looked to be relatively intact.


34 posted on 04/11/2021 8:23:37 AM PDT by MercyFlush (Senator Joseph McCarthy was right. )
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To: dfwgator
Don't open the barrels!


35 posted on 04/11/2021 8:29:43 AM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
A summertime ritual when I was a kid.


36 posted on 04/11/2021 8:30:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: deport

I grew up in Long Beach at the end of WWII. My parents told me about seeing barge loads of all kinds of war surplus stuff (like jeeps) dumped between L.B. and Catalina. The story was the government didn’t want to reward the car companies for their war effort by dumping low-priced, brand new jeeps on the market, so they dumped them at sea instead. All kinds of stuff got dumped.

As for DDT being an environmental disaster, Rachel Carlson likely was (inadvertently to be sure) responsible for many more deaths than Hitler. Millions of Africans died from malaria each year after DDT was banned. I believe they finally are allowing the use of DDT-treated mosquito netting.

There was a professor in California who ate a pound of DDT to show how harmless it is to humans. Of course he died—thirty years later while mountain climbing in his 80s. But at least the pelicans are OK.


37 posted on 04/11/2021 8:32:31 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Rebelbase

Same for me! 1956 Farmington NM. When the city sprayed for mosquitos along the Animas River.


38 posted on 04/11/2021 8:34:28 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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DDT IS NOT A DANGER, STOP YHE DECADES OF LIES

http://www.eco-imperialism.com/myths-and-facts-about-ddt/


39 posted on 04/11/2021 8:34:31 AM PDT by raygunfan ( )
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To: deport
[...] countless barrels of toxic waste, laced with DDT, littering the ocean floor in between Long Beach and Catalina Island

Well, as long as they're only laced, that shouldn't be a source of concern.

"to lace": To mix some substance, typically alcohol or drugs of some kind, into another.

Regards,

40 posted on 04/11/2021 8:36:20 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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