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For What Should We Fight Russia or China?
Townhall.com ^ | April 6, 2021 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 04/06/2021 6:31:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Navy Patriot

Russia & China didn’t collapse our society.

Americans, Soros & other aholes did that.


21 posted on 04/06/2021 8:45:43 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Chainmail

My kid’s school teaches Mandarin. Some of the highest performing students are of Chinese ethnicity. Welcome to the 21st century.


22 posted on 04/06/2021 8:47:14 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Kazan

Mike Pompeo didn’t help, but you are correct, the Obungo/Biden/Nuland/Kagan clan started this.


23 posted on 04/06/2021 8:55:22 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
Russia & China didn’t collapse our society.

I understand what you mean, but we need dates for accuracy.

Chinese activity prior to 1949 did not contribute to the Collapse of our society, and Russian activity prior to 1917 and after 2000 did not contribute to the Collapse of our society.

However, Communist China since 1951 continuously has been a major contributor and supporter to the internal subversion of the United States.

Additionally, Russia since 1920, and Soviet Russia until 1995 has been a similar contributor to the internal subversion of the US by Liberal Democrats.

Your point that American Liberal Democrats freely chose to be Traitors, is correct.

24 posted on 04/06/2021 9:15:50 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Kaslin

I think we have a far bigger enemy within.

The American left is destroying this country far faster than Russia or China could ever do.

I keep saying that when China, Russia or Muslims finally take over this country without firing a shot it’ll be a big improvement. At least they are grounded in reality.


25 posted on 04/06/2021 9:25:12 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Kaslin

Ummm... the right to live free?


26 posted on 04/06/2021 9:48:52 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Reeses

“This is a dispute about fish.”

Not quite:

1. Resources of oil and natural gas
2. China uses disputed islands to build military bases to make it impossible to have open sea lanes, if they so decide.

They have been ruled against by the International Court, with the court stating they have little to no serious claims on islands they have already taken.


27 posted on 04/06/2021 10:07:11 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Harpotoo

China will wait—til disorder comes to America. A few dollars to radicals, a new virus, a few more tons of drugs. and American paper tiger will fold into a running dog capitalist kulak. Then they will move on those rocks. Japan will not risk war over them, nor will Manila. No one will risk war when China takes the islands next to Taiwan. The pot boils and the frog sleeps. Biden will talk all tough and send a few ships to sail, maybe some troops to Kiev—but its all theater. When Putin moves it will only be when he has a strong hand to play. War by Summer.


28 posted on 04/06/2021 10:54:14 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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To: Reeses

No, it isn’t. It’s about military reach and sea control.

Guess you just stayed home, didn’t you?


29 posted on 04/06/2021 11:14:40 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then there should never be any reason at all to listen to Buchanan about the defense of our country and our allies.


30 posted on 04/06/2021 11:18:09 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Kazan

I see. So the murderous attempts to overthrow the decisions of the Ukrainian people by Russia and their seizure of Crimea and their full-on armed support of pro-Russian separatist Ukrainians had nothing to do with it?

Did you get your last paycheck from Moscow OK?


31 posted on 04/06/2021 11:22:55 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Ah so - a Chinese bot..


32 posted on 04/06/2021 11:23:58 AM PDT by Chainmail (Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: PGR88
I think many Americans are starting to think that a global empire doesn’t really benefit them.

It doesn’t.

We have a hard enough time just dealing with our own troubles. We don’t need to go looking for problems outside of our borders — especially when the result is spite, hatred, and jealousy from those we helped out.

33 posted on 04/06/2021 11:25:38 AM PDT by Magnatron
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You mean our transgender soldiers, gay sailors, and pregnant fighter pilots are not an optimum fighting force?

We can handle anything the Russians might throw at us. Except pronouns. Pronouns are highly dangerous, hurtful and destructive!

34 posted on 04/06/2021 12:11:39 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Hootowl

“You mean our transgender soldiers, gay sailors, and pregnant fighter pilots are not an optimum fighting force?”

Outside of some weird, woke screenplay, no.


35 posted on 04/06/2021 1:55:52 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Chainmail
So the murderous attempts to overthrow the decisions of the Ukrainian people by Russia

What are babbling about? We pushed to overthrow the Ukrainian govenrment and 2014 under Obama and that resulted in people in eastern Ukraine and Crimea no longer wanting to be a part of Ukraine. The leadership we helped install started trying to stick to the Russian and denying them access to the port Crimea. What did you expect Putin to do?

China is whole different story. It violated an agreement with Britain regarding Hong Kong and definitely trying undermine this country.

36 posted on 04/06/2021 2:42:59 PM PDT by Kazan
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Oh yeah, there's nothing like a military invasion to solve any problems they might have had trying to steer Ukraine's election. Good old Russian thugs -

Remember the Dutch airliner they shot down "helping their Ukrainian supporters"?

The Russians haven't changed a bit, have they?

37 posted on 04/06/2021 3:01:05 PM PDT by Chainmail (Remember - that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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Oh yeah, there's nothing like a military invasion

It wasn't an invasion. They were welcomed in. In fact, those that welcomed them in wanted to be part of Russia but Moscow turned them down.

38 posted on 04/06/2021 4:17:18 PM PDT by Kazan
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This group were dissatisfied with Ukrainian government and set up their own autonomous region in Donbss

The Pro-Russian separatist forces of the War in Donbas, or the United Armed Forces of Novorossiya (Russian: Объединённые Вооруженные Силы Новороссии; acronym NAF),[2][7] is the umbrella name for the militias and armed volunteer groups affiliated with the unrecognized political union called Novorossiya (New Russia). It consists of the Donbas People's Militia,[8][9] the Luhansk People's Militia and autonomous armed groups.

Sure, the Russians seized the opportunity and supported them. But, that is there is business. I see no reason why we should be picking sides.

This not the same as the Nazis invading Poland.

39 posted on 04/06/2021 4:32:05 PM PDT by Kazan
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