Chauvin Trial Day 3: Jurors, eyewitnesses watch body cam, surveillance footage

One America News ^ | March 31, 2021

[Navy Patriot]

Day three concluded in the murder trial for former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin.

On Wednesday, four police body camera videos and various surveillance videos were played for the jurors.

[Navy Patriot]

Not so much the article that's interesting, but the Comments about the article indicate the OANN readers are not fooled by the Railroading of Chauvin or the the reason for this Kangaroo Court in Minneapolis.

I am still patiently waiting for Minneapolis to burn to the ground.

[brownsfan]

“I am still patiently waiting for Minneapolis to burn to the ground.”

I’m with you on that. Reduce that dysfunctional city to a pile of ashes. Gd liberals.

[redgolum]

Chauvin’s actions contributed to the death of that man.

So did the MASSIVE amounts of drugs in Floyds system.

At this point, the jury will convict. The pressure to do so will be so high I doubt many could go against it.

The real case will be decided by appeals I wager.

[Georgia Girl 2]

I don’t think they are going to get him on murder. The DA’s always over charge in these cases. They should have gone with criminal negligence. An easy win.

[OldGoatCPO]

It is my sincere hope that he is found not guilty on most if not all counts and if not, wins in Appeals court. That should drag this out long enough that by summers end Portland, Seattle, San Fran, LA, Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, NYC and Atlanta look like Hiroshima after the bomb.

Then people will have had it and demand a purge of ANTIFA and BLM. Once that occurs, then we really can build back better. Short of that let’s just build a wall around urban areas, we have the technology for that now.

[brownsfan]

“Then people will have had it and demand a purge of ANTIFA and BLM. “

Or not. But I agree, let’s get on with it. If the masses tolerate the obliteration of cities over this, there was no saving the country anyway. Rub the public’s nose in it, and see if they can be saved.

[Navy Patriot]

I suspect you are correct regarding final disposition by appellate courts.

Here, the Jury has the power, whether they know it or not.

There may be no Warriors on the Jury, or there may be one so astute that he/she cannot be identified.

[Az Joe]

2nd degree manslaughter. Could get him 10-20 years

I predict hung jury as the jury makeup seems to favor Chauvin.

As of now I would vote: Not Guilty.

[Az Joe]

Which of Chauvin’s actions?

[ScubaDiver]

The medical examiner reached the same conclusion. And yet, he failed to note ANY forensic evidence to support that conclusion.

There were no bruises on Floyd’s torso, no signs whatsoever of asphyxiation and his neck, throat and windpipe showed absolutely no signs of trauma of any kind.

Floyd didn’t have a breathing problem, per say. He had ‘not beating heart’ problem.

Unfortunately, if he is convicted, the only way he’ll be helped on appeal is if the judge committed a reversible error. Remember, in our legal system - unlike some other legal systems - appellate courts don’t review the propriety of the jury verdict, only the the process of the trial itself. IOW, they don’t look at the evidence and say: ‘Oh, the jury got this wrong.’ That’s simply not how it works.

[JonPreston]

This blubbering fool on the stand right now was Floyd’s girlfriend? God, some women are absolute screwballs.

[redgolum]

Kneeling on the neck.

Someone in respiratory distress, forced to the ground, with a knee in the neck is not going to have a good day.

[lakecumberlandvet]

“Chauvin’s actions contributed to the death of that man.”
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There’s no evidence whatsoever to support what I consider to be an incorrect conclusion on your part.

[Az Joe]

Pics taken from a different angle shown yesterday show him kneeling on his upper back, just down from his neck. Also, how much force is used during the kneeling on his upper back is undetermined as of this point in the trial.

Start of Day 4 and there is still no evidence Chauvin is guilty. State has a very weak case.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

I am still patiently waiting for Minneapolis to burn to the ground

That has been the plan since before the Floyd news. They defunded the police so that the burning will have no real opposition.

[joshua c]

Chauvin’s actions contributed to the death of that man.

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Which of his actions contributed to the death?

The knee on the neck is a widely approved restraining tactic. Was Chauvin negligent for using an approved procedure?

There may have been negligence. Hopefully, this will be clarified at trial.

The pressure to convict will be unbearable.

[joshua c]

the knee on the neck was not restricting floyd’s breathing.

he was foaming at the mouth, a sign of pulmonary edema. His lungs were filling with fluid which is why he was having trouble breathing. Pulmonary edema is a result of opioid overdose.

how could the police prevented the death from drug overdose? How could they stop his lungs from filling with fluid?

[redgolum]

I posted this on a previous thread
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While I am not a lawyer, I am in a technical trade that has to deal with a lot of court cases.

When there is a violation (injury, accident, environmental) the first step is “Was the procedure followed?”

A good portion of the time, that answer is “no” and now you go down that rather horrible rabbit hole.

However, in a recent injury case were the procedure was followed, the response became “Was the procedure correct? Would a reasonable person understand that the procedure was correct?”

That is the scary one. See “Reasonable” has a very specific meaning. If the procedure was being followed, but still resulted in an injury, the Injured Person AND the person who developed the procedure are suddenly under the microscope. In the case I am mentioning the lead man was following documented procedure, had plenty of evidence that the procedure was being followed as documented, was still held liable because it did not pass the “reasonable” step.

Can’t go into to many more specifics than that.

So now the defense has to argue that a reasonable response is to put a knee to a handcuffed mans neck for 9 minutes, while the man is crying for help, because that is following procedure.

In my world (technical again), such a procedure would result in the person doing the activity AND the person/s who wrote the procedure facing liability for the injury. “Following the department procedure” is not a defense, and has been called out as such in many, many training sessions I have been in since I was a shiny hat engineer.

To say that the police are held to a lesser standard than engineers means we are in a horrible situation.

[redgolum]

Did putting him on his chest, with pulmonary edema, and placing a knee on his neck make the situation better or worse?

Your point is valid. Floyd had enough opioid in his blood to kill two people. However that is not what the defense (IMO) will be arguing. It needs to be that the actions of Chauvin were what a reasonable person would do that has training in first aid and (I suspect) signs of pulmonary distress.

Here is a hint. It isn’t force them to the ground and then push on the upper back or neck.

Remember the other three cops were almost begging him to stop to.

Also, Chauvin and Floyd knew each other. I have yet to hear to much about their interaction at the club where they both worked. So this wasn’t a random person, the two parties knew of each other at least.

[yoe]

Interesting, thanks.

The Police witness's did nothing about stopping Officer Chauvin, you could see them talking to each other while he had the drugged Floyd pinned...obviously they didn't think he was doing anything wrong, if they did, they should have acted....