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(Asheville) Council votes to demolish Vance Monument (NC Civil War Governor)
Mountain Xpress ^ | March 24, 2021 | Molly Horak

Posted on 03/26/2021 8:51:59 AM PDT by Rebelbase

Asheville’s Vance Monument is coming down.

At Asheville City Council’s meeting of March 23, members voted 6-1 to demolish the 75-foot obelisk named after Confederate Gov. Zebulon Vance. “I’ve come to realize that the Vance Monument no longer reflects, and probably never reflected, the values of our community,” Mayor Esther Manheimersaid. “I’m looking forward to the day we can have a centerpiece in our city that reflects Asheville today. And I’m proud to be part of the Council that will make this change.”

That change comes at a price: A $114,500 bid to remove the monument was awarded to Asheville contractor Chonzie. A separate $25,535 contract for temporary site restoration will go to Asheville-based MS Lean Landscaping.

After the monument is gone, the city will begin crafting a “comprehensive Community Vision document” to inform the future direction of its downtown plaza, costing up to $70,000. A planning phase to solicit public engagement will run through the fall, said Jade Dundas, Asheville’s public works director.

(Excerpt) Read more at mountainx.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: asheville; chonzie; esthermanheimer; jadedundas; kmg; msleanlandscaping; northcarolina; zebulonvance
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This makes my blood boil. The Asheville Taliban deserve Scaphism for this.


1 posted on 03/26/2021 8:51:59 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
20 years back my two then young sons met H.K. Edgerton standing watch at the Monument. He is to this day the most dignified man I have ever met.


2 posted on 03/26/2021 8:54:00 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

A better written article here:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article250165860.html


3 posted on 03/26/2021 8:56:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

My understanding is that the Asheville Council will purchase a statue of men committing sodomy, which would be more in line with its present thinking.


4 posted on 03/26/2021 8:59:40 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Rebelbase

Oh, boy! A “Comprehensive Community’vision document’”

Bwaaaahahaha

Where have we seen THAT before?

What a bunch of fools.


5 posted on 03/26/2021 9:01:44 AM PDT by Walrus (I do not consent)
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To: Rebelbase

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to just change the plaque.

They could change the plaque weekly just by using peel off labels.


6 posted on 03/26/2021 9:04:02 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Rebelbase

Why do I get the impression that Esther Manheimer is a recent arrival to Asheville?

Update: why yes, Esther “arrived” in Asheville only 30 years ago or so. And here’s some more fun stuff about her:

https://www.change.org/p/city-of-asheville-remove-mayor-esther-manheimer-from-office

Seems she’s an ANTIFA fan who likes defacing public property while taking citizen money. Good gig if you can get it.

Don’t think she would have lasted too long back in the 1790’s. Regulator folks might have had a bit of problem with an attitude like that.


7 posted on 03/26/2021 9:06:28 AM PDT by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: Bookshelf

Asheville is much the same as it was in the 1920s. A popular mountain tourist town with boatloads of money floating around. The Great Depression hit and the money dried up and it eventually became an Southern backwater and stayed that way until the mid 90s when New Age money moved in and gentrification went wholesale.

25 years later it is corporate money banking on tourism that fills the public coffer.

If I live long enough to see an economic crash akin or greater than that of 1929 I will relish the sight of New Sodom and Gomorrah sliding into a backwater again.


8 posted on 03/26/2021 9:06:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

Northern liberals ....ruin another city in Dixie

Pity

Lesbian capital of the south

“Vermont is too cold”


9 posted on 03/26/2021 9:07:16 AM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: Rebelbase

I am not familiar with Vance, so I did a quick Wiki check:

“In September 1862, Vance easily won the gubernatorial election under the banner of the Conservative Party, a coalition of former Whigs (such as Vance) and Democrats with Unionist sympathies, over secessionist Democrat William J. Johnston of Charlotte.[9] In the Confederacy Vance was a major proponent of individual rights and local self-government, often putting him at odds with the Confederate government of Jefferson Davis. For example, North Carolina was the only state to observe the right of habeas corpus and keep its courts fully functional during the war. Vance opposed Confederate conscription practices; postwar, he would even testify in the hearing investigating George Pickett’s execution of 22 alleged Confederate deserters in the aftermath of the Battle of New Bern (1864). Vance testified that the North Carolinians were “troops raised for local defense” and that “the Confederate government did not keep faith with these local troops,” who were “transfer[red] to the regular service” in “violation of their enlistment agreement.”[10] This testimony questioned the legality of Pickett’s decision to hang as deserters the North Carolinians found fighting for the Union troops, and put Pickett at risk of prosecution for war crimes. Vance also refused to allow supplies smuggled into North Carolina by blockade runners to be given to other states until North Carolinians had their share. Vance’s work for the aid and morale of the people inspired the nickname “War Governor of the South”.

North Carolina had to have a governor during the Civil War, and it just turned out to be him. It sounds as if he did a good job. He’s an interesting figure, and the monument should stay.


10 posted on 03/26/2021 9:07:55 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Rebelbase

I’ll bet I could remove that thing for much less than 114K.


11 posted on 03/26/2021 9:10:00 AM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: Regulator

Most folks outside Buncombe likely detest her.


12 posted on 03/26/2021 9:10:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: Rebelbase
I hear they can get some of these statues cheap...the ones who used to have them want them gone.


13 posted on 03/26/2021 9:11:18 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (What if the Lord sent COVID-19 to immunize the world from something more deadly?)
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To: Rebelbase

It also lost industry from then

I don’t think those were the same sort of yankees though to be fair


14 posted on 03/26/2021 9:11:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: Rebelbase

He’s an interesting person:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._K._Edgerton


15 posted on 03/26/2021 9:12:43 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Bookshelf

They could just change the plaque to read “Cyrus Vance, Jr.” and say that it honors his efforts to go after President Trump.


16 posted on 03/26/2021 9:12:48 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

South haters whether on free republic or at Oberlin rarely read the fine print


17 posted on 03/26/2021 9:12:55 AM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: Rebelbase

Be sure to thank Nikki Haley for getting this ball rolling.


18 posted on 03/26/2021 9:14:11 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Regulator

Esther E. Manheimer is an American politician and attorney serving as the mayor of Asheville, North Carolina.

Esther E. Manheimer
Mayor of Asheville, North Carolina
Incumbent
Assumed office
2013
Preceded by
Terry Bellamy
Personal details
Born
Denmark
Political party
Democratic
Spouse(s)
Mark Harris
Children
3
Education
University of Colorado Boulder (BA)
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (JD, MPA)
Contents
Early life and education Edit

Manheimer was born in Denmark to American citizens. She has two siblings. Her family returned to the United States when she was three, and she lived in San Diego; Olympia and Spokane, both in Washington and Bethesda, Maryland before moving to Asheville when she was 17.[1]

Manheimer graduated from the University of Colorado Boulder, and she served as campus director of the American Movement for Israel[2] and earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in anthropology.[3] She attended the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, earning degrees in law and a Master of Public Administration.

Career Edit

After graduating from University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Manheimer returned to Asheville, North Carolina in 2002. She was elected to the Asheville City Council in 2009 and served until 2013. She was elected mayor of Asheville in 2013.[4]

In March 2016, Manheimer spoke out against the controversial Public Facilities Privacy & Security Act, state legislation that eliminated anti-discrimination protections for the LGBT community.[5]

Personal life Edit

Manheimer is married to Mark Harris. They have three sons.[1] She is the third Jewish mayor of Asheville, after Ken Michalove in 1989 and Leni


19 posted on 03/26/2021 9:15:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (P IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG lz’’z:s)
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To: Rebelbase

Destroy our history - the good and the bad.


20 posted on 03/26/2021 9:17:30 AM PDT by Karoo
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