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America at the End of Empire-Is civilizational decline reversible?
Frrontpagemagazine ^ | Mar 26, 2021 | Mark Tapson

Posted on 03/26/2021 6:59:24 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: Forward the Light Brigade
We have left the golden age and are now coming to the silver age.

And gold is the reason for the wars we wage.

41 posted on 03/26/2021 9:08:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SJackson

These are the End Times and the Rapture is very close.


42 posted on 03/26/2021 9:09:22 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: dfwgator

“...Is civilizational decline reversible?..”

Ask the ancient Greeks, Roman Empire, Iroquois League, 5 Civilized Tribes, etc. But even at that, none of them fell because they wanted to and hated themselves.


43 posted on 03/26/2021 9:13:13 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Levy78
That is why I referred to the boiling frog metaphor, the great danger from China is not a Pearl Harbor type attack rather it is a gradual envelopment and strangulation from without increasing pressure and demoralization within until the quislings among us open the gates and let the barbarians in.

Was it Vladimir Lenin who said,"the last capitalists will sell us the rope with which to hang them?" It seems that there is not a single institution in America that has not been marginalized if not wholly suborned by the Chinese. That is the likely path to our demise but the Chinese might be their own worst enemy, they might just slap us in the face, they might just galvanize the spirit of America.


44 posted on 03/26/2021 9:21:57 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“I’m old and not going anywhere, but I hope younger people will seriously consider leaving if things get too bad.”

Wow, with people like you it’s no wonder we are in the mess we are in. And just where do you suggest that the “younger people” go? This is OUR country, and we will fight and die for it if necessary. As Zapata famously said “I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.”


45 posted on 03/26/2021 9:22:49 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson )
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To: SJackson

>>Is civilizational decline reversible?<<

Only with Trump — no one else.


46 posted on 03/26/2021 9:34:08 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Pining_4_TX

People will only fight when they have nothing left to lose. As John Adams pointed out, people have to be willing to not risk their lives, but risk their comfort. And when the FBI is rounding up people just for being there on the 6th, people will have to re-think the loss of their comfort before they fight.

I think this formula is why we see the left in the streets. These folks have nothing to lose, so even a slide into hard communism is something they at least perceive as an improvement. The right has a little more at stake.


47 posted on 03/26/2021 9:40:24 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
And to amplify, it really looks like you and I are in agreement on this. This is where I live. It's 75 miles from the nearest urban center. We have two knobs, two hollers two streams (except during long dry spells) and one 365 day natural spring. Wo the right of the Chrysler and on the other side of the road is our new 30x60 shop. We'll be fine. The only thing I have to worry about, really, is something akin to the first scene in Inglorious Basterds.


48 posted on 03/26/2021 9:47:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Little Ray
Weak men make hard times.

Great comment...

The basic problem in America, IMO, is the nation's loss of "virtue" in the classic sense of the word. Weak men brought down the Roman Empire, and it's happening here.

"If such an institution, which gave the people an interest in their own government, had been universally established...the seeds of public wisdom and virtue [my emphasis] might have been cherished and propagated in the empire of Rome,’ which ‘under the mild and generous influence of liberty’ [my emphasis] … might then ‘have remained invincible and immortal."-- Gibbon, Edward, and Hugh Trevor-Roper.The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

No one knows if the loss of American prowess has reached a point where an external threat cannot be overcome. But our liberty is being swiftly eroded; and, as far as I'm concerned, all bets are off.

49 posted on 03/26/2021 9:49:03 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
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To: Little Ray

Hard times make strong men.
Strong men make good times.
Good times make weak men.
Weak men make hard times. <——— You are Here!


50 posted on 03/26/2021 9:50:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Do you really think they are going to rise up and start a civil war? Do you think elections are going to change anything, especially with the flood of illegals who will soon be voters?

No and no. Hence my comments. Without a vanguard, someone to pick up the flag of liberty and march it forward, most work-a-day Americans are going to do what they're told as the noose tightens.

51 posted on 03/26/2021 9:53:18 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: SJackson
What is happening is reversible and is the oldest story of mankind. It's the story of the Old Testament. When man worships God his lot improves. He then get lazy, worships things other than God and everything turns to crap. When he hits bottom he gives up his godless ways and begins to worship God and the cycle starts over. It's the cycle of life.
52 posted on 03/26/2021 10:06:35 AM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: SJackson

Lacking an open season on leftists, I’d say we’re doomed.


53 posted on 03/26/2021 10:21:52 AM PDT by Augie
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To: dfwgator

This has been coming for decades. Trump was a reprieve, not a pardon.

More than one of the nation’s founders said words to the effect that ‘Our Constitution was designed for a moral and religious people only’.

Will anyone argue that a society that promotes, makes wealthy and gives awards to “Artists” like Cardi B” while banning Dr. Suess can be characterized as “Moral and religious”. (I know, That’s just two of many but you get the point)

“Be prepared” Baden Powell


54 posted on 03/26/2021 10:51:00 AM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: SJackson

No. America is done as I have known it. The democrat seizure of voting kills any chance of new politicians and flooding the country with third world violent people gives than a standing army. It is over. Prepare accordingly.


55 posted on 03/26/2021 10:59:48 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: SJackson
At the end of the Republic.
Rome went through apparent decline and moral dissolution at the end of the Roman Republic but then came Caesar and Empire. Rome was, as the USA is, a functioning empire and when the Roman Republic collapsed the period of empire ensued. It is not, of course, inevitable but it happened in the past. The American Republic is in collapse and will not be revived. Whether Empire follows is the question now.
56 posted on 03/26/2021 4:21:32 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe qip)
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To: sphinx

If you want to destroy the functioning private schools, open up vouchers


57 posted on 03/26/2021 7:56:46 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: SJackson

Republics have a short life span.

People don’t want freedom, they want a kind master


58 posted on 03/27/2021 9:35:04 AM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: Shane

So do you think the people who left Europe and came to America should have stayed in Europe? It takes a lot of courage to leave everything you know and start in a foreign land. There is no shame in taking your children to a safer place that will give them more opportunities than they have here. White boys are being discriminated against and parents have a duty to protect them and rescue them from the situation if at all possible.

People on FR talk a lot about fighting, but they don’t say how. So far, nobody has done anything but talk.


59 posted on 03/27/2021 5:49:15 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ("War is the health of the state." Randolph Bourne)
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To: SJackson
The problem is “civilizational fatigue,” the concept that at some point a grand world power – e.g. ancient Rome, 19th-century England, America under a desiccated Joe Biden – peaks and then implodes (“gradually and then suddenly,” as a Hemingway character once put it when asked how he went bankrupt). The empire succumbs to lassitude, corruption, and moral decadence, undone by its very prosperity and success. Having conquered the world, the fire in its belly that powered it to the top cools to ash. It can no longer muster the civilizational conviction and warrior spirit necessary to keep the barbarians at the gates from swarming the battlements.

That is insightful and very true.

In our case, the barbarians – i.e., the forces of anti-civilization – have been inside the gates for over half a century, making their Long March through the institutions. We allowed their Marxist poison and their postmodern anti-rationality to seep throughout our schools and universities, and their false but seductive narratives to be promoted in our news and entertainment programs, until they secured the culture and corrupted the political landscape as well – so successfully that we elected, twice, a President who denied American exceptionalism, explicitly declared his agenda to “fundamentally transform” the country, and inspired his followers to believe, "Yes, we can."

It's more a matter of not having challenges that make people discipline themselves than of barbarians inside the gates. Confronted with some challenge or threat, people will come together sooner or later and work to stop it -- not too late, one hopes. Without such a threat people will eventually turn on each other or else grow soft and complacent. It's a lowering of energy, plus turning what energies there are against each other. The country gets through times like these by having some task to focus on or some external threat or enemy to rally against.

60 posted on 03/28/2021 11:58:46 AM PDT by x
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