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Marine Officer Warns Congress Against Classifying Christians in Military as ‘Religious Extremists’
epoch times ^ | 24 March A.D., 2021 | Mark Tapscott

Posted on 03/24/2021 2:29:22 PM PDT by lightman

A slide used in a Department of Defense (DOD) training manual identifies Catholics and evangelical Christians as “religious extremists,” along with members of the Ku Klux Klan, al Qaeda and Hamas, according to a Marine Corps officer.

“First Liberty also obtained a screenshot of an unclassified slide from a U.S. Army training manual. The slide is entitled ‘Religious Extremism’ and it purports to identify religious extremists,” Michael Berry told the House Armed Services Committee during a hearing Wednesday entitled “Extremism in the Military.”

Berry is General Counsel to the First Liberty Institute (FLI), a Plano, Texas-based public interest law firm that specializes in First Amendment and religious freedom cases. Berry is also an officer in the Marine Corp Reserves, though he presented his testimony in his capacity as a civilian.

“Included among those listed are al Qaeda, Hamas and the Ku Klux Klan as groups that use or advocate violence to accomplish their objectives and are therefore rightly classified as extremists,” Berry told the committee.

“But also included are Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism, who most assuredly do not advocate violence. Surely, the fact that Evangelical Christians and Catholics hold fast to millennia-old views on marriage and human sexuality does not make them extremists who are unfit to serve,” Berry continued.

“At a time of turmoil and instability, during which our nation faces many external threats, [this] message is inappropriate and offensive to our service members and those they defend,” he said.

The training manual that Berry referred to is used in Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s recently ordered “stand-down” to identify and root out extremists in the U.S. military. Austin’s order came in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, breach of the U.S. Capitol, in which some of the participants were military veterans.

Austin said in a DOD video explaining his reasons for the stand-down that all military members in each of the branches are required to view that “there is not a single doubt in my mind that you take seriously your oath to the Constitution and that you serve this country with honor and dignity and character.”

Even so, according to Austin in the video, the stand-down is needed because of “extremism and extremist ideology, views and conduct that runs counter to everything that we believe in.”

Austin claimed in the video that the presence of extremist views “is not new to our country and, sadly, it’s not new to our military.” He did not provide in the video any examples of such individuals.

The training materials used in Austin’s stand-down and presented by Berry during the hearing purported to present credible descriptions of extremist ideologies, conduct, reasoning and identifying characteristics.

Committee Chairman Adam Smith (D-Wash.) told the hearing in his opening statement that “if you serve in the military, you pledge an oath to the U.S. Constitution and to the laws of this country. If you disagree with that Constitution and you disagree with the laws of this country so strongly that you no longer think our government is legitimate, then you have no business serving in the U.S. military and you should get out now.”

Two issues were particularly prominent in witness testimony and committee members’ comments, the lack of credible data about the extent of any extremism in the ranks, and the lack of what constitutes impermissible expression of views and actions on behalf of those views.

Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), the panel’s top Republican, told the hearing at the outset that “it is important to point out that we lack any concrete evidence that violent extremism is as rife in the military as some commentators claim.”

Rogers said “extremism was a factor” in the separation of only nine soldiers from the U.S. Army in 2020, and he noted that “since 2018, 17 Marines have been separated for extremism, gang or separatist activities.

“That’s 17 out of 200,000. While I agree that this number ought to be zero, this is far from the largest military justice issue facing our armed services,” Rogers said.

He also told the committee that “earlier this year, 151 overwhelmingly liberal organizations, including Human Rights Watch, the ACLU, and SPLC Action [Southern Poverty Law Center Action Fund], urged Congress not to expand domestic terrorism charges.”

“The organizations said, ‘We urge you to oppose any new domestic terrorism charge, the creation of a list of designated domestic terrorist organizations, or other expansion of existing terrorism-related authorities,’” Rogers said.

Besides Berry, the committee heard from only two other witnesses, Dr. Audrey Kurth Cronin, an American University Professor of International Security, and Lecia Brooks, Chief of Staff for the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a liberal advocacy group that has often been criticized by conservatives for defining “extremism” so broadly as to include conventional political groups that clearly are not.

The newest Republican member of the committee, Rep. Pat Fallon (R-Texas) pointed out that “recently the Washington Post, the New York Times, Politico, NPR, and the New Yorker magazine, just to name a few, skewered the SPLC for, among other things, corruption, harassment, racism and a widening credibility gap.”

Fallon also noted that Cronin claimed 37 of those arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 breach of the U.S. Capitol were either U.S. military veterans or reservists.

“There are 18 million U.S. military veterans. Thirty-four were rioters. This means that 17,999,966 of us were not. That’s one out of 529,000,” Fallon said.

Smith rejected Fallon’s comments, however, as “logically absurd” because veterans arrested during or after the Jan. 6 riot do not represent the full scope of the problem. “We don’t know how large a problem this is, that’s why we’re having this hearing,” Smith declared.

Cronin told the committee in response to a question from Rep. Jim Langevin (D-R.I.) that recruitment efforts by extremist groups targeting active and retired military individuals “is indeed becoming an increasing problem.”

Asked by Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) his view on the use of lists of prohibited organizations, Berry said “they can be dangerous. Labeling evangelical Christians and Catholics as ‘extremists’ is opening Pandora’s box.”

Michael Waltz (R-Fla.) expressed concern that a DOD effort against extremism will play into the hands of Chinese Communist Party efforts to damage the U.S. image overseas.

“There is an active propaganda campaign being prosecuted by the Chinese Communist Party right now attempting to portray our country as an evil racist hellscape with no authority to lecture them on human rights. I worry that we may be playing into our adversary’s hands, and I do worry it will undermine our ability to fight and win wars in the future,” Waltz said.

Smith concluded the hearing by saying “there are demagogues on both sides” and that he “is very concerned about over-reactions … if we are targeting people and shutting them off from jobs and everything for something they said 20 years ago. There’s no reference point, no structure to that and it becomes just this excuse to shove your point of view down somebody’s throat.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 21210106; bideneffect; catholics; ccp; china; christians; communistcoup; dod; evangelicals; extremism; freedomofspeech; lloydaustin; persecution; racism; recruitment; splc; trainingmanual; usmc; veterans; waronchrist; waronchristians
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Welcome to BIDENISTAN.
1 posted on 03/24/2021 2:29:22 PM PDT by lightman
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To: lightman

The only way out is through.


2 posted on 03/24/2021 2:31:57 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: lightman

So African American Christians are religious extremists


3 posted on 03/24/2021 2:33:43 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: lightman

Amazing that a gov’t that imports Muslims DELIBERATELY is worried about religious extremeists...


4 posted on 03/24/2021 2:34:38 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: lightman

Anyone of any religion is an extremist to the left unless your Muslim in which their violence gives them the crisis’ they need to eliminate your freedom and liberty.


5 posted on 03/24/2021 2:34:55 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: lightman

Catholics? JFK just got cancelled. Oh wait, he was an anti-communist so maybe he was an extremist.


6 posted on 03/24/2021 2:35:06 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: lightman

Biden’s military will be a bunch of social workers who couldn’t fight their way out a paper sack.


7 posted on 03/24/2021 2:39:18 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: lightman

My oath was only to the Constitution - no mention of ‘the law’s of this country’.


8 posted on 03/24/2021 2:39:25 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: lightman

Just think that is the beginning. How long until they put all Christians on that list?

This is outrageous and extremely offensive.

Clearly put in and approved by communists.


9 posted on 03/24/2021 2:40:50 PM PDT by Enlightened1 ( )
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To: lightman

This was warned against at the start of the surveillance state to fight “a war on Terror”. Too generic a category. The intelligence agencies were weaponized against an opposition party (Trump), and now against the PEOPLE in said party.


10 posted on 03/24/2021 2:45:23 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: lightman
"Michael Waltz (R-Fla.) expressed concern that a DOD effort against extremism will play into the hands of Chinese Communist Party efforts to damage the U.S. image overseas."

Expressed Concern? That's Biden's plan. You don't think the CHICOMS gave his crack-head son all that money because with no strings attach, do?

I have great respect for Michael Waltz, but he needs to stop speaking with the passive voice. Instead, he needs to call a spade a spade. What Biden's goons are doing his preparing the battlefield for China to kick our asses without firing a shot.

11 posted on 03/24/2021 2:51:20 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: lightman

I thought it was just to the constitution, not a willy-nilly pledge “to the laws in this country” some of which are found from time to time to be unconstitutional.


12 posted on 03/24/2021 2:51:34 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: lightman

SecDef Lloyd Autism ranks among the worst in DoD history.

He ranks with such worthless POS’s such as Aspin and McNamara.


13 posted on 03/24/2021 2:51:50 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: lightman

Our Training Instructor warned us of this back in 1966 Basic Training.

Now it is here.


14 posted on 03/24/2021 3:02:03 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: lightman

A slide used in a Department of Defense (DOD) training manual identifies Catholics and evangelical Christians as “religious extremists,”...

Biden claims to be a Catholic. Ergo, Biden is a terrorist.


15 posted on 03/24/2021 3:08:43 PM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: Flick Lives
"Devout" Catholics, like Biden and Pelosi, are not terrorist threats.

It's only real Catholics, like Amy Coney Barrett, who are.

(Do I really need the "/s"?)

16 posted on 03/24/2021 3:34:02 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Enlightened1

“The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a liberal advocacy group that has often been criticized by conservatives.” The SPLC a liberal advocacy group? They put the Singing Nuns of their Hate Group Map. (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/03/outrageous-far-left-southern-poverty-law-center-puts-singing-nuns-on-its-hate-groups-map/) Even the Epoch Times cannot be counted on to tell it like it is.


17 posted on 03/24/2021 3:57:20 PM PDT by Vehmgericht (12)
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To: Vehmgericht

Splc are communist scum.


18 posted on 03/24/2021 4:05:17 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: lightman

“Welcome to BIDENISTAN.”

Biden is Obama’s puppet.

Obama professed to not being a practicing islamic and said he was christian.

BUT,

Every decision Obama made was in favor of islam and now biden is extending that path.

Obama imported every muslim he could find into our country giving them preference across the board but they are not on the list of domestic terrorists.

No Catholic or Christian just killed ten people in Colorado.

One of the Obama kind, islamic, did just kill ten people in Colorado.

SOB’s, sons of barack, kill a half dozen people in chicago each and every weekend. On a warm holiday weekend the death count can easily reach a dozen.


19 posted on 03/24/2021 4:12:57 PM PDT by oldenuff35
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To: AppyPappy

>>So African American Christians are religious extremists<<

Ever seen a black church service. lol Just kidding...well, kinda.


20 posted on 03/24/2021 4:15:34 PM PDT by servantboy777
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