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To: Kaslin

No, not now or then a solution. Term limits shift power from the elected idiots that we know to behind-the-scenes administrators and office staff that we don’t and would not know. No one has ever explained how term limits would not cause that shift the the Washington workers and, more importantly, how to prevent it.


3 posted on 03/21/2021 6:41:56 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Worker)
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To: Reno89519
I agree. I don't think term limits really solves the problem here. If you limit a House member to 12 years in Congress, all you're really doing is compressing their corruption into a shorter period of time and giving them an incentive to steal more while they can before heading for the exits.

There would be no need for term limits if we simply enforced limits on the power of the Federal government.

5 posted on 03/21/2021 6:46:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Reno89519

Working in public/civil service should be treated like the military. You do your time get a participation trophy then enter the private sector. Just think how much the country would save in pensions alone.


9 posted on 03/21/2021 6:49:40 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: Reno89519

Thank you, thank you, thank you. The 2nd post and you nailed the problem with term limits concisely and effectively.

President Trump’s battles illustrates your position. We will get more weaselly worthless wonks like Lt Col Vindman, Eric Ciaramella and the rest of the unelected bottom feeding swamp critters if we adopt term limits without addressing your points. Always remember their motto STAFF RUES!


34 posted on 03/21/2021 7:36:45 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Reno89519
No, not now or then a solution. Term limits shift power from the elected idiots that we know to behind-the-scenes administrators and office staff that we don’t and would not know.

EXACTLY! I watched John Brennan, James Comey and James Clapper nearly take down an elected President. They had vast power because of their time spent in vast, powerful bureaucracies, which run completely independently. Have they ever been subject to an election? To public scrutiny? How about first having term limits on these bureaucrats and their programs?

Limiting the power of our elected officials, as flawed as they are, just gives even MORE power to these people.

39 posted on 03/21/2021 7:48:10 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Reno89519

That’s already happened. It would happen regardless of term limits or not, as long as the public demands a federal regulatory state it will continue. Also Congress likes the idea of passing decision making down to the bureaucracy. If something goes wrong they didn’t make the decision, “faceless bureaucrats did !”. They have a convenient whipping boy to blame. A term limited Congress would like it equally as well. So you need a Congress friendly to the idea of moving or minimizing that regulatory power. A term limited Congress where the members go home is best situated to minimize or shift the regulatory power an imperial Congress has no incentive to do so. The best solution is for Congress is to minimize the regulations or pass the regulations & regulatory body down to the states with money. Shifting it to the states satisfies Congress’s (politicians) desire to avoid blame - state legislatures or state bureaucrats fault ! At least at the state level the regulatory body might be more responsive.

You are always going to have some form of bureaucratic regulatory power somewhere. Why? Because the public wants it.

There is no perfect solution, just solutions off increasingly less bad !


40 posted on 03/21/2021 7:55:03 AM PDT by Reily
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