Posted on 03/13/2021 5:24:35 AM PST by buckalfa
COLUMBIA, SC (WSPA) — A hate crimes bill is moving through the South Carolina State House, some say it would exclude gay and transgender people from being protected.
South Carolina is one of three states without a state hate crime law on the books.
A panel of lawmakers made some changes to a bipartisan hate crime bill Thursday. Supporters said this will help get the legislation across the finish line in 2021.
A House Judiciary subcommittee voted to remove protections for ‘gender’ and ‘sexual orientation’ from H.3620. Republican lawmakers said this would help make sure the bill passes in the House before the crucial bill crossover deadline in April.
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Representative Chris Murphy (R-District 98) said, “I think this amendment will go a long way to alleviate a lot of the concerns from our membership.”
The legislation would still enhance penalties for crimes committed because of someone’s race, color, religion, sex, national origin or disability.
LGBTQ advocates said this change strips away any protections for their community.
Jarrod Wiggins is a Board Member for SC Equality. He said, “This isn’t an old generation versus a new generation thing. This is just a respect issue. This is just us saying South Carolinians should live their lives they want they want to live their lives.”
Wiggins said he’s disappointed to see the protections removed from the legislation since the LGBTQ community needs it most. “What’s the point of having a hate crimes bill if not every marginalized community is protected. I just don’t see a reason to have it at that point.”
Lawmakers said members of the LGBTQ community would still be protected by the bill because the word ‘sex’ could be interpreted in different ways.
Rep. Weston Newton (R-District 120) said, “There is a recent supreme court case where the language and federal statue ‘sex’ is interpreted to include homosexuality and transgender.”
The subcommittee voted unanimously to send the bill to the full House Judiciary Committee.
Lawmakers also removed a portion of the bill that allowed civil penalties and clarified some language that made sure the hate crime enhancement doesn’t exceed the original crime.
George Orwell wrote on the hypocrisy of governments that proclaim absolute equality but bestows special privileges and proctections to retain power.
South Carolina pols cannot resist the siren call of power to promote equity over equality. Even with window dressing, I ask are hate crime bills even necessary or constitutional?
Never mind being necessary or constitutional- I want someone to show me a Love crime.
How are they not protected? If someone harms that person can and should go to jail. Just as they would with us.
One of the many things that convinced me that the legal profession is no longer respectable is when they try to determine “hate” as part of a crime. There is a reason that these folks go into the word profession instead of real ones.
There should not be ANY hate crimes legislation.
It’s already a crime to assault others, whatever the motivation.
George Orwell wrote on the hypocrisy of governments...
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With all due respect to Orwell’s foresight, it’s looking like he had no idea how crazy things could really get in a progressive ‘utopian’ society.
The Democrats don’t have any issues with killing the innocent unborn. That is not hate to them. But perverts, gotta protect them.
Careful, you might get accused of daring to apply common sense.
The better thing to do would be to repeal any “hate crimes” from the laws.
Should assault, rape, murder, harassment, and other such crimes be on the books and be a crime no matter the motive? Yes.
Should prosecutors use, when appropriate, a defendants showing of hate in demonstrating motive, when appropriate, yes.
Is not someone who has been proven to commit those crimes equally guilty, no matter their motive? Yes.
Then there is no need for “hate crimes”.
Should “wife” or “husband” or “spouse” or “boy” or “girl” or “man” or “woman” or “person” be a protected “hate crimes” class, in case they are murdered pr assaulted by someone who just simply hated them, not because they were a different “race” or because they were “gay” but merely because they just plain simple hated them? No? Do they not deserve “equal protection” under the law, like the “protected classes”?
“Hate crimes” are unfair because they do not represent equal protection under the law. They claim that some classes have more protection under the law.
If someone is murdered, do their families deserve less justice from the law, merely because the murdered person was not a “protected class” under so called “hate crimes”?
But the truly greater fallacy and problem with “hate crimes” is - as we foretold - they do not ened at the trial over a “hate crime”.
The premise of the “hate crimes” moves down the slippery slope of false justice to the point of imposing crimes for mere thought, now referred to as “hate speech”, and in some western countries that has already come to pass, with people being arrested for their words, in public and, or, in print.
THAT is where I knew the idea of “hate crimes” was headed.
Remove “sexual orientation” and “gender” as categories in “hate crimes”? No. Remove the “hate crimes”.
Conservatives are at a huge disadvantage in the fight for normalcy because the Left is not burdened with moral values, expectations of decency, religious beliefs, or respect for law and order the way we are.
We believe there should be standards. They want whatever makes them feel good.
They are free to do and demand whatever they want without any concerns of hypocrisy. Being a liberal means never having to live within any constraints.
“LGBTQ advocates said this change strips away any protections for their community.”
Ooooh, kinky. Anyway, they’ll still have 45 or so other states where they can run around in drag.
“Never mind being necessary or constitutional- I want someone to show me a Love crime.”
Isn’t that Governor Cuomo’s defense?
What I HATE about those pictures are the ‘parents’. Sickening.
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Every crime is a hate crime. PERIOD.
Notice it doesn’t include age. They want to continue killing the youngest and oldest, with impunity.
Hate crimes legislation is unconstitutional at its core. We are all created equal, with equal rights.
Absolutely, 100% correct. A "hate crime" is the same as a "thought" crime.
I hate long red lights. If I accidentally ran one would that be a hate moving violation?
The only special consideration I'd find legit in a case of unjustified physical harm would be when a kid,an old person or a physically disabled person is harmed.
Heteros aren’t protected..why should any other sexual preference be? Protecting one and not the other is discrimination.
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