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Manchin defends delaying $1.9T COVID package, wants $11 minimum wage
nypost ^ | 03/07/2021 | Mark Moore

Posted on 03/08/2021 7:44:07 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Sen. Joe Manchin on Sunday defended holding up debate for hours on President Biden’s $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill over his opposition to a $15 minimum wage and certain unemployment benefits — saying the negotiations led to a more targeted stimulus package.

The moderate Democrat from red-state West Virginia said members of his caucus and Republicans worked together to “make significant changes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: covid; delaying; manchin; package
11 dollars instead of 15??? How brave of you Manchin. Get us to serfdom a tad slower.
1 posted on 03/08/2021 7:44:07 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Orgy of Pork needs to be stopped completely.


2 posted on 03/08/2021 7:44:49 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Why not make it $100 an hour?


3 posted on 03/08/2021 7:46:57 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So sick of this self-aggrandizing ass clown... West Virginia’s Mittens -— Munchkins.


4 posted on 03/08/2021 7:51:24 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Manchin is a major league PHONY!


5 posted on 03/08/2021 7:51:35 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Both ways for 11 bucks.


6 posted on 03/08/2021 8:07:48 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (I like him-he reminds me of the late Joe tex. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27; All

$11? Dhow your work Joe. Why is THAT the magic nationwide number? Is $11 really a livable wage in New York? Maybe some Senator from WV isn’t the right guy to determine this. What a joke


7 posted on 03/08/2021 8:17:36 AM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The government does not have the right to set a minimum or maximum hourly rate of pay. End of discussion.


8 posted on 03/08/2021 8:17:49 AM PST by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of incurable hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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To: I want the USA back

Governments don’t have rights; people do. Governments have power granted to them by people. But I agree with your intended point which is that the US Federal government lacks the authority to require businesses to pay employees a specific amount of money.

These kinds of requirements only skew the marketplace and create efficiency problems. The free market self-corrects these situations. If the wages are not “livable” then either they won’t have enough workers to fill the positions and they’ll have to raise the wages, or they will because the people filling those positions don’t have the living expenses that would make the wages unlivable (e.g. high school and college kids).

Every time they force the minimum wage higher, they create more economic pressure for people in the middle and advance the timeline for moving low-skill jobs toward automation. At $5/hr, robots can’t compete with low-skill workers. At $15/hr, they absolutely can. If I’m McDonalds, I’m looking real hard at replacing my burger-flippers with a robot at that point. The robot doesn’t scream at customers or walk out on the job. It just does its job without campaigning for more pay and benefits to be foisted on the corporation.


9 posted on 03/08/2021 8:31:41 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: I want the USA back

Bingo.


10 posted on 03/08/2021 9:07:17 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: I want the USA back

States do. The Federal Gov. does not.


11 posted on 03/08/2021 9:18:13 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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To: BenLurkin

To be fair, President Trunp was guilty too.


12 posted on 03/08/2021 9:19:04 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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To: BenLurkin

To be fair, President Trunp was guilty too.


13 posted on 03/08/2021 9:20:43 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Why not make it $100 an hour?

Nothing trolls Republican hacks like the minimum wage. $11.00 sounds like the sweet spot to me.

14 posted on 03/08/2021 9:21:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: I want the USA back
The government does not have the right to set a minimum or maximum

The SCOTUS has said otherwise, 3 times....

15 posted on 03/08/2021 9:22:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yep, he wants to put EVERY small business out of business!! :(


16 posted on 03/08/2021 9:23:43 AM PST by Bill of Rights FIRST
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Idiots... government has NO authority to artificially set the price for wages, which is no different than imposing unconstitutional price-controls on the sale of products/services! Wages is a changing free market component decided by the supply and demand metrics against a labor pool of skill-sets.

Government DOES NOT own/control the means of production or an individuals labor, therefore DOES NOT have the authority to fix wage prices in the marketplace!

If that were the case, than government would have authority to put price-controls on ANYTHING it pleases! No need to control wages, just produce/provide everything for free and achieve a socialists paradise where the cost of living is ZERO!

Government interferes as a means to create optics and narrative for the purpose of partisan political expediency. Bash corporations with demagoguery/propaganda... create a boogie-man in order to manipulate the public support into favoring government controls. Indeed it gives the illusion of caring for the little guy, but is in reality all misdirection. Designed to impact employment, create desperation and discontent among unskilled/union laborers so the worker demands MORE government regulation and controls over private sector hiring and wages!

Minimum wage price fixing is a socialist central government labor control that DIRECTLY interferes with the voluntary contractual exchange of labor in a free market economy... which leads to a government caused increase in unemployment and welfare dependency. It needs to be ABOLISHED!


17 posted on 03/08/2021 9:24:24 AM PST by Bellagio
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To: cowboyusa

Yep, you are right!


18 posted on 03/08/2021 9:24:44 AM PST by Bill of Rights FIRST
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To: ChicagoConservative27

$11 is a little better than $15, but the government should not be setting wages.


19 posted on 03/08/2021 8:39:31 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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