Posted on 03/04/2021 4:16:54 AM PST by Kaslin
With reparations, there is the issue of who pays. Do African countries owe reparations to Black Americans? After all, Harvard's director of the Hutchins Center for African & African American Research, Henry Louis Gates, wrote that 90% of those enslaved and shipped to the New World were sold by Africans to European slavers. All whites? Only whites? Nonwhites? Are payments owed before the United States became a country?
Former University of California, Los Angeles, historian Roger McGrath writes:
"The reparationists claim that the United States must compensate the descendants of slaves for 400 years of slavery. Since the United States was not established until 1788 (when the required three-fourths majority of the states approved the Constitution), slavery existed for only 77 years before the 13th Amendment abolished it." McGrath also writes about the number of whites who owned slaves in the January issue of Chronicle Magazine:
"While the cotton economy enriched the owners of the large plantations and insured that millions of Blacks would live as slaves, it didn't do much for most Southern whites, who saw the most fertile bottom lands owned by a small number of powerful families. Depending on the era, only 25 percent or so of Southern whites owned slaves or belonged to a family who did."
On former President Barack Obama's maternal side, there were slave owners. Obama's father came from Kenya, a slave-trading area. Does Obama get a check, or does he cut a check? Similarly, Vice President Kamala Harris' Jamaican father has acknowledged slave owners in his family. Does Harris, whose mother is from India, get a check or cut a check?
Slavery, sadly, has been part of human history since the beginning. Muslim slave traders took whites out of the Mediterranean area and enslaved them in Northern Africa. European slavers took Blacks out of Africa and shipped them to the New World. Europeans enslaved Europeans. Asians enslaved Asians. Africans enslaved Africans. Even Native Americans enslaved other Native Americans.
Again, who pays whom? When and where does the pursuit of reparations stop, if ever?
The Arab slave trade took more Blacks out of Africa and for a longer period of time then did the European slavers. In "Prison & Slavery," John Dewar Gleissner writes: "The Arabs' treatment of Black Africans can aptly be termed an African Holocaust. Arabs killed more Africans in transit, especially when crossing the Sahara Desert, than Europeans and Americans, and over more centuries, both before and after the years of the Atlantic slave trade. ... African slaves transported by Arabs across the Sahara Desert died more often than slaves making the Middle Passage to the New World by ship."
As to the trans-Atlantic slave trade, historian Gates says:
"Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.
"And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That's right: a tiny percentage."
And that tiny percentage has prospered to a far greater degree than did those who went to the Caribbean, Central and South America, and, in some cases, Mexico.
In 1940, 87% of American Blacks lived below the federally defined level of poverty. By 1960, that number had fallen to 47%, the greatest 20-year period of economic expansion for Blacks in American history.
Who receives reparations? How is this determined?
Since slavery ended nearly 156 years ago, determining legal heirs to the stolen slave labor would be impossible.
When assessing the amount of reparations to be paid, is it relevant that the descendants of slaves here have prospered to a far greater degree than have the descendants of slaves shipped to Central and South America? If Black America were a separate country, its gross GDP would make it the 17th wealthiest country in the world. Economist Walter Williams said Blacks have come further ahead from further behind -- and over a shorter period of time -- than any people in the history of the world.
To be concluded next week.
It’s stupid and divisive. If started, it will never end, just like “Affirmative action.”
Totally agree. Having said that...get your mind right...it coming.
Just be prepared to hand over the keys to your cars and house when the time comes...because as we know, everything white people have was gained on the backs of slaves somehow.
Don’t lasugh...its not a joke.
40 acres and a white mule.
Reparations?
Just send them an invoice for the total cost of the Civil War, including a derived human life compensation ($100,000) for the family descendants of each Union Soldier lost in the bloody conflict.
Add to that the Trillion$ wasted on social programs since LBJ.
That ought to about cover it.
Will that be cash or card, and when we can expect payment.
This is why reparations will not be given to individuals but will be spent on investments in the inner cities, ie, reparations will become a slush fund for Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and BLM.
I see this as another storm coming for the poor Southern land owner.
Btw, I’m a poor Southern land owner.
How about reparations to the Chinese who built our railroads—earning less than Minimum Wage?
I thought it was all taken care of by welfare. Guess I was wrong.
So reparations are to be paid to people whose ancestors might or might not have been slaves by people whose ancestors might or might not have owned slaves? And what happens when the cash payment is spent and gone? Will they keep coming back for more? Just how long can they milk this?
“The Arabs’ treatment of Black Africans can aptly be termed an African Holocaust.”
The Arabs also castrated their male black slaves, which is why there are very few descendants of such slaves in the Middle East.
Several years ago some so-called Black scholar tried to say the Arabs did not import blacks as slaves for this reason.
And just how many would be willing to plow with a mule if you actually gave them 40 acres?
Sixty years ago there was an attempt to replace Braceros from Mexico with poor people in the US. The poor refused to do “stoop labor” so the farmers in the south West had to rush to bring in the Braceros again.
My Irish ancestors came to America as indentured servants. Where is MY money?
Despite having escaped bad governments and limited potentials they weren't thankful for American citizenship and guaranteed freedoms - they were on board with the other ingrates claiming we, who've never owned slaves, should pony up for those who've never been slaves. Those former Africans, like (totally white) Cohen, somehow see some cut of that coming to them.
As Jesse Jackson once said in a lucid moment, it's not a black issue or a white issue - it's ultimately a green issue.
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