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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
said, " claims this is a mind control chip"
Again you got caught up in controlled opposition. They want you to throw out all logic when you hear something like "vaccine causes."

mRNA vaccines are called vaccines but they don't create antibodies. They're using the term very loosely for a reason. Antibodies can be created two ways. Either your body expelled the disease. Or giving a close facsimile of the disease. mRNA vaccines are really a time released drug that affects the symptoms. Kind of like NyQuil that last longer. The mRNA process of bonding to cells does have major side effects that should not be over looked.

19 posted on 03/02/2021 4:14:42 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn; 2aProtectsTheRest
mRNA vaccines are called vaccines but they don't create antibodies. They're using the term very loosely for a reason. Antibodies can be created two ways. Either your body expelled the disease. Or giving a close facsimile of the disease. mRNA vaccines are really a time released drug that affects the symptoms. Kind of like NyQuil that last longer. The mRNA process of bonding to cells does have major side effects that should not be over looked.

Not a single word if that is even remotely correct. Where do you come up with this stuff?

It does indeed create antibiodies, and mRNA does not and, indeed, cannot work the way you described. The mRNA goes into cells with instructions to produce the spike protein found on the virus, but not the full virus like the virus's own mRNA would instruct the cells to do. The body creates antibodies to dispatch these spike proteins. The same antibodies would then recognize the spike proteins on the actual virus to provide immunity or at least a reduction in severity and shorten the time of the infection. mRNA is not at all durable and dissipates rather quickly.

20 posted on 03/02/2021 4:49:03 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Steve Van Doorn
"mRNA vaccines are called vaccines but they don't create antibodies."

False. They do create antibodies including neutralizing antibodies. In fact, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines create significantly more neutralizing antibodies than mild infections.

"Antibodies can be created two ways. Either your body expelled the disease. Or giving a close facsimile of the disease."

False. Antibodies can be created in one way: dendritic cells take a piece of the invading pathogen (the antigen) to lymph nodes where T-cell activation specific to that antigen begins. Those T-cells then begin activation of B-cells also specific to that antigen. Those B-cells then create antibodies.

"mRNA vaccines are really a time released drug that affects the symptoms. Kind of like NyQuil that last longer. The mRNA process of bonding to cells does have major side effects that should not be over looked."

Completely and totally incorrect.

The mRNA vaccines contain a small piece of messenger RNA wrapped inside a lipid (fat) shell. Upon contact with a cell membrane, the lipid shell dissolved into the lipid bilayer of the cell membrane, releasing mRNA into the cellular cytoplasm (which is outside the nucleus). The mRNA then encounters a ribosome, whose only job is to take mRNA and build the protein encoded in it. It doesn't know or care where that mRNA comes from, so it'll take the vaccine's mRNA and build its encoded protein. That protein is the S-protein (or spike protein) which sits on the surface of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and enables entry into cells. It's harmless by itself, but the immune system recognizes it as foreign and treats it as evidence of pathogenic invasion. Dendritic cells take samples of the S-protein to the lymph nodes and the process of antibody production begins.

If all that is too much to read, here is a short and simple animation that explains it.

25 posted on 03/03/2021 8:06:26 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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