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To: Steve Van Doorn
"mRNA vaccines are called vaccines but they don't create antibodies."

False. They do create antibodies including neutralizing antibodies. In fact, the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines create significantly more neutralizing antibodies than mild infections.

"Antibodies can be created two ways. Either your body expelled the disease. Or giving a close facsimile of the disease."

False. Antibodies can be created in one way: dendritic cells take a piece of the invading pathogen (the antigen) to lymph nodes where T-cell activation specific to that antigen begins. Those T-cells then begin activation of B-cells also specific to that antigen. Those B-cells then create antibodies.

"mRNA vaccines are really a time released drug that affects the symptoms. Kind of like NyQuil that last longer. The mRNA process of bonding to cells does have major side effects that should not be over looked."

Completely and totally incorrect.

The mRNA vaccines contain a small piece of messenger RNA wrapped inside a lipid (fat) shell. Upon contact with a cell membrane, the lipid shell dissolved into the lipid bilayer of the cell membrane, releasing mRNA into the cellular cytoplasm (which is outside the nucleus). The mRNA then encounters a ribosome, whose only job is to take mRNA and build the protein encoded in it. It doesn't know or care where that mRNA comes from, so it'll take the vaccine's mRNA and build its encoded protein. That protein is the S-protein (or spike protein) which sits on the surface of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and enables entry into cells. It's harmless by itself, but the immune system recognizes it as foreign and treats it as evidence of pathogenic invasion. Dendritic cells take samples of the S-protein to the lymph nodes and the process of antibody production begins.

If all that is too much to read, here is a short and simple animation that explains it.

25 posted on 03/03/2021 8:06:26 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
said, "Moderna and Pfizer vaccines create significantly more neutralizing antibodies than mild infections"

This is true though they're monospecific antibodies. They're using Neuropilin-1 which their claiming it interacts with the growth of covid-19.
Which are not specific to Covid-19. Meaning the slightest variation the antibody is nearly useless.

26 posted on 03/03/2021 11:00:19 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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