Posted on 02/21/2021 11:20:36 AM PST by george76
We need people like Susan's parents in the Seinfeld episode in which George Costanza has lied about owning a house in the Hamptons and Susan's parents, suspecting he was lying, asked to see it. George drove them all the way to the Hamptons, looking for a way out, but finally had to confess he was lying.
The testing, the masks, the distancing, the vaccines, Dose 1 and 2, the deaths all deaths that would have occurred anyway. All a ruse waiting for someone to call the bluff?
Are there any immunologists here?
I wonder what damage is being done to children’s immune systems. Watch any little kid or baby and they’re eating worms, playing in dirt, wrestling with each other, eating old rotten food under the car seat. Now they are being doused with hand sanitizer, masked, and isolated. That can’t be good.
“ The testing, the masks, the distancing, the vaccines, Dose 1 and 2, the deaths all deaths that would have occurred anyway. All a ruse waiting for someone to call the bluff?”
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Color me absolutely delighted, if that’s all it was.
What if, instead, the ruse was to get us to take these vaccines,
that are not really vaccines in the traditional sense, so that a
longer term goal might be realized?
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This is quite terrifying: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241577
The West’s Obituary*
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Right now the Chinese are furiously working in their biolabs, as are a whole host of other nefarious nations, such as North Korea and likely Iran.
What are they working on?
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Threlkeld added, Williams also had been vaccinated for COVID about a month ago and that testing found the two types of antibodies in his system - one type of antibody that results from a natural COVID infection, and a second type of antibody from the vaccine. Threlkeld also said Williams tested negative for COVID-19 while in the hospital.
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From The Hunt For Red October:
YOU ARROGANT A$$ YOU KILLED US!
Coronaviruses are notorious for ADE reactions, where antibody presence potentiates the infection instead of protecting against it. Using that as a bioweapon is stupid because you will score “own goals” on your own people and there is no way to control that. As a result biological weapons generally are dumb; poison gas and such don’t have this risk since it does not propagate but any disease does.
The poster child for ADE in coronaviruses was an attempted vaccine for a feline coronavirus that often made cats very sick. The vaccine killed every one of them in the test when they were later exposed, wildly potentiating the infection.
Read that again folks: NOT ONE VACCINATED CAT SURVIVED A CHALLENGE WITH THE ACTUAL VIRUS.
Ordinary vaccines we have lots of experience with, such as measles, the flu shot, mumps and similar do not carry a risk beyond that of natural infection and cannot be weaponized because they produce the exact same antibody response as a natural infection. If you have had either the measles or the shot you will have antibodies but an antibody test will not tell you which since they’re not distinguishable.
I suspected from the start that due to the way these mRNA shots work — they are not actually a vaccine at all in that they do not “mimic” natural infection but rather cause your cells to produce the spike protein that the virus has and that elicits an immune response — that the antibodies produced by those jabs would be distinct and distinguishable from natural infection.
All of the so-called “experts” who worked to develop these and the firms involved knew d@mn well this was the case when they started developing them — and did it anyway.
Now we have hard, scientific confirmation of that and it’s very bad.
In fact it’s potentially nation-ending bad.
An adversary that develops a virus (e.g. another modified/mutated bat virus, for example) that selectively targets ADE in people with the specific antibodies from vaccination, which are distinct from natural infection, could easily kill every single person who was vaccinated and not harm or only make mildly sick those who either had Covid-19 naturally or who were uninfected and unvaccinated.
The nightmare scenario that has always driven bioweapons research is the push to discover some genetically distinct means of targeting a bioweapon such that it only kills your adversary and leaves everyone else alone. It’s even worse for your adversary if your side gets and transmits it but doesn’t get sick.
This has never been found despite diligent effort in the past; all attempts to find such a distinct vulnerability have failed, showing reactivity across the board and thus strongly suggesting that if that “thing” was completed and got out it would kill indiscriminately. That you cannot stop a virus from circulating (even isolated islands eventually got hit by the 1918 pandemic flu!) means that releasing a virus or bacteria that nobody on “your” side has been sensitized to yet doesn’t help because when (not if) the sensitizing agent gets into your population all your people die too.
This has now, for the first time in human history, been changed by the idiotic actions of our governments and pharmaceutical companies in that we are now tagging people for death by the literal millions and they will die if an adversary is able to develop a virus that targets those specific antibodies.
Of course, said adversary will not deploy the tagging via said shots in their population and thus their people will not be attacked and killed. Since it takes an actual jab of a needle to be sensitized absent intentional action there is no risk to the adversary’s population or troops.
I give the odds of an adversary (remember, we’re talking nations here with nearly unlimited resources and plenty of smart people) figuring out how to selectively target Covid-19 vaccination antibodies at 50% or better within the next five years.
If they succeed every single person who took one of the vaccines that produces a distinguishable antibody titer dies.
You can bet your last nickel they’re working on it right now.
What happens if they succeed and we forcibly vaccinated our children and anyone who wishes to have a “normal” life back? The entire procreation-capable stock of people in the United States will die and so will America.
That risk is wildly beyond the boundaries of sanity to have ever been accepted and it was deliberately concealed from the people — not just here, but throughout the Western World.
It’s clearly not enough for certain ghouls to have destroyed a full year of most school-age children’s education; now they propose to risk literally extinguishing all of their lives and thus the future generations they would be able to create down the road.
I pray I’m wrong.
Unfortunately I know that I’m not — there are plenty of people, both terrorists and evil nation-states that would love to unleash something like this on those they hate, they will work on this problem and if they discover a way to exploit it they will do so.
The use of any “vaccine” that does not produce an identical antibody to natural infection must be halted immediately and never done again. We cannot do anything for the people already stabbed but we can eliminate the incentive to develop such a weapon by not having any material percentage of the productive and young population able to be targeted.
The option to cancel the risk of self-destruction of our nation and many others will expire within weeks.
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~Easy
The inspired content of air is 0.21. This does not change. Unless you have something called a non-rebreather.
The point is SpO2 and FiO2 are two very different things.
“ I wonder what damage is being done to children’s immune systems. “
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Corona children studies “Co-Ki”: First results of a Germany-wide registry on mouth and nose covering (mask) in children.
(It’s not good, folks.)
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-124394/v2
~Easy
“What are the hospital workers doing now working with C-virus patients?”
There doing exactly the same thing they do with any person with the flu, or ann other contagious disease. where a mask when there in the room, and properly dispose of it when they leave the room.
Good analogy. I've heard it using mosquitoes instead of sand.
Even the CDC is onboard with this:
CDC Admits: No Conclusive Evidence Cloth Masks Work Against COVID 10/29/20
Unhelpful gaslighting, GAS_Dr., ignoring and misdirecting from the issues
as usual. (And from things people can check for themselves, too, like if
they are having any issues with their SpO2 while masked, for some
*unfathomable* reason.)
And you CHOSE that name, too. LOL!
You are actually above average at what you try to do here,
but it’s becoming clear that all you care to do is insult people
that are trying to learn the truth.
(While attempting to baffle them with BS.)
~Easy
Easy~
I think it is important that people understand the physiology. I explained what the issue may be, and actually it supports no masking. I think it is important people understand what we breath and how we breath it.
You are among the most reasonable....please have a look at what I have said. O2 saturation may in fact decrease in unhealthy lungs, however it is not the amount of oxygen breathed and certainly not at 95%
I do not support masks, I do expect people know what they are talking about before they publish it.
What is gas lighting about this?
I gave you a very precise description of exactly how wearing a mask results in reduction of SpO2% and increase of CO2 in your bloodstream, along with an easily repeated test and demonstration to measure and prove this effect.
Anyone who cares to can easily test the effect on themselves with a Pulse Oximeter, which is readily available to anyone at a cost of less than $25.
You gave me a great idea to walk around both ways and test on a pulse oxy meter.
First, my commentary was directed at someone who said something materially inaccurate to advance an agenda
If we are to advance the agenda of freedom which to the best of my knowledge we agree to, then we cannot advance it based on inaccurate statements as it destroys our collective credibility.
What you said is technically correct and I have responded in kind, the original statement which seems to get lost was so egregiously wrong as to require correction.
That is all.
Instead of arguing with folks trying to figure this out, and telling them
how wrong they are, how about telling them what the very best way
to argue their case would be,
and how best to determine what their mask problem might be caused by,
how real health issues from mask wearing can present themselves,
how to spot the symptoms, what to do,
what people can do to boost their own immune systems to lower their
chances of coming down with it,
and that if they think they are having any potentially dangerous mask
issues, how easy it is to check their SpO2 on their own,
and all the proper things they ought to be doing to minimize the heath impacts of too much mask wearing on themselves and especially their
children,
and what they best ways are to disinfect masks one is forced to use,
how much can they be safely used/reused, what the best home and
portable tools are for that,
Any of which could save more lives than arguing about the physiology
terminology without actually discussing the deteriorating physiologies
and all the possible causes and preventions of the difficulties in question.
~Easy
?????? It's a pure waste of resources to even try to converse with you. I'll not do it anymore.
Biden will use the double mask recommendations to explain the decrease in numbers.
When I travel by plane or am in a supermarket, I wear something more reliable than a cloth mask 😷. There are some solid Korean-made ones that aren’t too bulky and have strong filtration.
I think that all who believe that masks are effective for WuFlu should wear two at a time. As often as possible. If they start dropping like flies from pneumonia and bacterial infections, less lib voters. I’ll even chip in some money for their double diapers.
Meme error.
N95 masks are 95% effective at blocking particles 2.5 nanometers in diameter, or larger.
Covid-19 is a wee bit smaller than that.
Even N99 masks are only 99% effective against particles 2.5nm and larger.
HEPA13 filters take it to 99.9%, still, only against particles 2.5nm and larger.
Pretty much ALL OF THEM these days tell you right on the box that they
are not effective against Covid-19.
Resist the gaslighting.
~Easy
Ok
perhaps I am being hypertechnical
Long day
Frustrating for multiple reasons
Apologies at this time
Good night.
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