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SOLAR POWER + BATTERIES WOULD REDUCE TEXAS-TYPE POWER GRID PROBLEMS
SolarChargedDriving.com ^ | 2/17/21 | CHRISTOF DEMONT-HEINRICH

Posted on 02/17/2021 1:22:55 PM PST by Renkluaf

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To: joshua c

If the problem was the conventional power plants, how do the northern states and Canada keep the lights on in the winter?
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Spend a LOT of $$$$ on winterizing their facitlities.
In Texas, most “saved $$$” because we would never get a polar vortex and freeze for a week after we have 20+% of our stuff green power with no backup.


61 posted on 02/17/2021 1:51:59 PM PST by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: Renkluaf

I don’t expect objectivity from a seller of solar panels. And self sufficiency must include the ability to run a refrigerator and the heating systems.


62 posted on 02/17/2021 1:52:33 PM PST by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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To: Renkluaf

I wonder if this moron has given any thought to the huge amounts of rare-earth metals we’d need to manufacture the batteries.


63 posted on 02/17/2021 1:52:40 PM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: arthurus

If he has the Tesla power bank, he should be able to run
things for two to three days without the panels.

You ration it and extend that two to three days out.

I have a family member that has this, and it works very
nicely for the family.

I don’t like paying utilities who can’t guarantee service
either.

I will say, that solar and wind farms, are not the way
to go. If you can run your own home with a system, then
fine.

I recommend a wind component if snow is an issue.

Wind can supply at a lower rate, but it goes 24 hours
instead of just five prime hours.


64 posted on 02/17/2021 1:52:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Republican Party is dead. Long live the Founders Party.)
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To: Brilliant

“It would cost an arm and a leg.”
Here’s the math. I have a house in Vermont which has electric heat. In the winter the bill is about $900 per month, $30 per day. Electricity is 10 cents per kilowatt hour (KWH). So I use 300 KWH per day. A Tesla has an 85 KWH battery pack, so it would take 3 Teslas to heat my house for 1 day. Tesla sells a 14KWH unit call a PowerWall at a price of about $12,000. It would take 21 PowerWalls to heat my house for 1 day, which would cost $252,000. Power has been out in Houston for more than 2 days, it could be 5 days. So my battery backup for 5 days would cost more than $1,250,000- much more than the cost of the house. But other than that it’s a great idea.


65 posted on 02/17/2021 1:52:51 PM PST by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: Renkluaf
You can't make this stuff up.

I think that's the only way to write this crap.

66 posted on 02/17/2021 1:52:55 PM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Renkluaf

So would a Mr. Fusion in every kitchen....


67 posted on 02/17/2021 1:53:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: cuban leaf
natural gas storage tanks would eliminate the problem. Texas doesn’t store it like most places do since they figure they can just pump it when they need it. But it got so cold they couldn’t pump it, so they were stuck.

Not the cold that stopped them pumping gas, it's that the EPA has discouraged the use of compressors powered by big Waukesha IC engines that run on natural gas. Of which there just happens to be a limitless supply! The pumps now have to be electric, and guess what!

68 posted on 02/17/2021 1:54:12 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (Eleutheromaniac)
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To: Renkluaf

In fact ==>

1) If we had a ton of local rooftop solar on homes and businesses and on solar carport parking lot structures AND storage batteries in those places, including in our homes, a lot more people would have power RIGHT NOW in Texas!

2) The technology exists to allow people to bring electricity into their homes from an electric vehicle’s batteries for up to three to five days. This technology is not yet in widespread use, but it could, and should, be!

Points 1 & 2 are not realistically or practibly workable and cost prohibitive...

They know this, making them the liars...


69 posted on 02/17/2021 1:54:20 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: glorgau

Physics & chemistry impose a physical limitaiton on battery technology. The more energy you cram into those chemical bonds the more fragile the bonds are. It’s a balancing act. Its not simply get a bigger battery.


70 posted on 02/17/2021 1:55:00 PM PST by Reily
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To: Renkluaf

This moron needs to be ridiculed loud and often.


71 posted on 02/17/2021 1:55:26 PM PST by DAC21
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To: Renkluaf

I didn’t know sun light passes through snow so that solar panels on the roof work during a snow storm.

Actually, all the renewable went offline and 40 percent of the conventional went offline.

Renewable 14 ggw. convention 67 ggw.

So, the state was reduced to 60 percent of 67 ggw, or 40 ggw.

If the state had 50-50 mix, say 40 ggw renewable and 40 gge conventional, then the state would’v been down to 60 percent of 40 ggw, or 24 ggw.

Or, to put this into non-technical language, the state would have been totally screwed.


72 posted on 02/17/2021 1:55:28 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Renkluaf

Perhaps the author does not understand that solar panels that are covered in snow, do not produce any power and that batteries only last so long.


73 posted on 02/17/2021 1:55:46 PM PST by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Renkluaf

Whoever wrote this is a total idiot. You would have to have battery bank the size of Houston.

Lets hope that enough people are smart enough to figure it out. Otherwise they are in for a whole lot of heartbreak.


74 posted on 02/17/2021 1:56:26 PM PST by Revel
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To: Renkluaf
You can't make this stuff up.

He did.

75 posted on 02/17/2021 1:56:47 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Renkluaf
VAST utility monopolies controlling the grid AND your (lack of) power

That hasn't been the problem. We got used to that setup, and it's worked fine for many decades now.

The problem with 'green energy' and the climate hoax that drives green energy, is that, the real problem is not immediately mentioned. The real problem is that, it's all about big government controlling one more big sector of the economy and therefore more of our lives, and then going further with redistribution of our wealth to other economies around the world.

What we have now works wonderfully. Don't create a crisis where there isn't any, and don't reinvent the wheel when the wheel has been working just fine for more than a century.
76 posted on 02/17/2021 1:56:54 PM PST by adorno
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To: DAC21

This moron needs to be ridiculed loud and often.


Go to his pathetic little blog and follow my lead.


77 posted on 02/17/2021 1:57:34 PM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: Renkluaf

Stop!

Give me some nice coal to burn, gas and some nuclear energy.

I’m tired of the green scam and all the silly games.

Bigtime visual pollution and what to do with the spent junk?

It’s like communism, the ugly arse polluting windmills and solar panels— they don’t work.

It’s fantasy crud that’s not ready for primetime.


78 posted on 02/17/2021 1:58:02 PM PST by Irenic
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To: nobody in particular
technology exists to connect the car battery to the house is available

plus getting the tesla into the kitchen is a bitch..

79 posted on 02/17/2021 1:58:26 PM PST by SGCOS
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To: Renkluaf

Government/political focus on solar as a utility source of electricity is a mistake.

Solar is much more suited and economic to downstream, consumer usage. Ie) solar panels on one’s house or building - vs. massive solar farms at utility scale.

Same with wind - although few people can have windmills in their backyards.

At utility scale, both are terrible for base-load, continuous power.


80 posted on 02/17/2021 1:59:08 PM PST by PGR88
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