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The Navy Cannot Beat China Without Help From U.S. Allies
https://nationalinterest.org ^ | February 12, 2021 | by James Holmes

Posted on 02/12/2021 11:47:03 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

It’s good to see allies take ownership of their own security, and of freedom of the sea.

PLA commanders have predicated their access-denial strategy on disheartening their U.S. counterparts or convincing the U.S. administration the military effort cannot succeed at a cost the country is prepared to pay.

Allies and partners should devise strategies and operations that hold down the price of access for U.S. forces—and thus make it thinkable if not easy for an American president to order them into combat.

Last week the University of Sydney’s United States Studies Center (USSC) set policy circles aflutter when it issued a novella-length report that questions the staying power of U.S. military strategy in the Indo-Pacific theater while urging inhabitants of the region to take up their share of the defense burden vis-à-vis a domineering China. Read the whole thing.

In one sense the report presents little new information or insight. That the U.S. military has retooled itself for counterinsurgency warfare and must now reinvent itself again for great-power strategic competition is old news. So is the notion that Washington suffers from strategic ADHD, taking on new commitments around the world willy-nilly while shedding few old ones to conserve finite resources and policy energy. Over the past decade-plus, it’s become plain that Communist China is a serious, strategically-minded maritime contender and has equipped itself with formidable shore-based weaponry to assail U.S. and allied bases in the region and supply firepower support to its increasingly impressive battle fleet.

Beijing can now hope to fend off U.S. reinforcements from coming to the aid of regional allies, to slow them down, or to make the effort so expensive in terms of lives and hardware that no U.S. president would order the attempt.

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1 posted on 02/12/2021 11:47:03 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

IMO, as a navy vet, todays navy couldn’t beat the chinese. Todays woke

PC military can’t match a Chinese military that will do anything to win.


2 posted on 02/12/2021 12:00:17 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: RomanSoldier19
The Navy Cannot Beat China Without Help From U.S. Allies

Ahhh yes, US "Allies", ...

3 posted on 02/12/2021 12:02:22 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: hillarys cankles

Our Military Complex is too busy scheduling transgender surgeries.


4 posted on 02/12/2021 12:03:03 PM PST by Chgogal (Hey Biden, I am a loyal supporter of the Biden's Banana Republic!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Any direct engagement with China would likely be nuclear.


5 posted on 02/12/2021 12:05:11 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: RomanSoldier19

Wait till they get a load of our kamikaze ship-ramming destroyers driven by women who aren’t on speaking terms.


6 posted on 02/12/2021 12:06:59 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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Wait till they get a load of our kamikaze ship-ramming destroyers driven by women who aren’t on speaking terms.

Just as long as we can convince our side that Communist Chinese Warships are Captained by Women.

7 posted on 02/12/2021 12:13:46 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: RomanSoldier19

War fighting is the last thing on the minds of the US military and even Donald Trump did not stop that trend. His claim that we have the best military in the world did not ring true to those of us who have been there. Not a chance.


8 posted on 02/12/2021 12:25:29 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: RomanSoldier19
bullsh1t... only because of the ROE, not that we can't
9 posted on 02/12/2021 12:26:02 PM PST by Chode (Ashli Babbitt - #SayHerNAME)
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To: RomanSoldier19

If that were the case, then why are they afraid of taking on Taiwan? They are commies, 90% of them never been laid due to lack of females. Broadcast porn and women moaning and they will be too busy making hand mad sumcumspank to fight.


10 posted on 02/12/2021 12:27:19 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Why would China think it’s a good idea to get into a conflict with the USA? Would, say, gaining Taiwan be worth the loss of all the trade China has with the West?

Plus all Chinese property, etc. in the USA would be seized. This would be a heavy price to pay in return for a victory parade.


11 posted on 02/12/2021 12:29:49 PM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

The US Navy cannot beat China without a sane, lucid, CIC.

After that it’s all over except the PLA ships just blowing up, for some reason...


12 posted on 02/12/2021 12:31:46 PM PST by OKSooner (IT'S HOWDY DOODY TIME!! HI SENATOR LANKFORD!!!)
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13 posted on 02/12/2021 12:35:24 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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14 posted on 02/12/2021 12:36:00 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: Brilliant
Any direct engagement with China would likely be nuclear.

Doubtful because there is not a scenario where either side would benefit from pulling the nuclear trigger first.

I hope the LGBQ-wxy's are ready to fight the next war because white boys and gonna sit this one out.

15 posted on 02/12/2021 12:36:57 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Chode

We could have won in Vietnam too. But we didn’t.

Now with today’s woke American society? Not a chance.

IMO, if China hit us with a first strike, taking out a city or 2?

We wouldn’t have the balls to hit back. No way. We are so soft. Obama

Was extremely successful in purging the officer corps of all the America

Firsters.


16 posted on 02/12/2021 12:40:07 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: Midwesterner53

What is the reason for the US not having the best navy? Also there are some analysts who think Japan has the best “Maritime Self-Defense Force”. However they are to be used strictly for self- defense, hence their name.


17 posted on 02/12/2021 12:40:26 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

“90% of them never been laid due to lack of females” -— no way is the m:f ratio that lopsided.


18 posted on 02/12/2021 12:46:40 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Navy Patriot

On one of the Navy ships that couldn’t outmaneuver a container ship, the two females on Watch we’re not speaking to each other. The one on the bridge was mad at the one in the cic.


19 posted on 02/12/2021 12:51:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: RomanSoldier19

The US navy has more carrier vessels than the rest of the world... Combined. Nearly as many subs as the rest of the world combined and certainly more nuclear subs. It has, I think the second largest air force in the world, behind the USAF. If all that firepower can’t be used to defeat China in a conflict... Why do we have it?

The US army likewise dwarfs the rest of the world in budget, technology, skilled manpower, and logistics. Yet, after twenty years of war, we can’t beat a ragtag group of goat herders with rusty soviet weapons.

It’s almost like the whole purpose of our military industrial complex isn’t to fight and win wars or something...


20 posted on 02/12/2021 12:53:16 PM PST by jz638
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