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CDC—No Longer Constrained By Trump—Issues Order That Makes Not Wearing A Mask On Public Transportation A Federal Crime
Forbes ^ | 01-30-2021 | Tommy Beer

Posted on 01/31/2021 2:55:19 AM PST by Houmatt

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1 posted on 01/31/2021 2:55:19 AM PST by Houmatt
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To: Houmatt

peachy


2 posted on 01/31/2021 2:56:27 AM PST by BRL
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To: Houmatt

Is there any reason to include the remark about the Trump administration other than spite?


3 posted on 01/31/2021 2:59:30 AM PST by newzjunkey (America First - bring on Giant Meteor in 2021)
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To: newzjunkey

Ask Forbes. They wrote the headline.


4 posted on 01/31/2021 3:00:36 AM PST by Houmatt (What isn't decided in court will be at the point of a gun. )
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I never could understand how an outfit like the CDC can just MAKE a law and enforce it.. I thought laws had to come from the legislature..
5 posted on 01/31/2021 3:00:57 AM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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From 2014, and get a load of the source...

The CDC Has Less Power Than You Think, and Likes it That Way

6 posted on 01/31/2021 3:02:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: Houmatt

There is no delegated power for this rule, it is unlawful.


7 posted on 01/31/2021 3:02:50 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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By Denver Nicks
October 17, 2014 1:12 PM EDT

Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Tom Frieden has come under fire in recent days for what some charge is the agency’s stumbling response to the appearance of Ebola in America. This week, reporters and lawmakers alike grilled Frieden over how two nurses in Texas contracted the virus and how one of them was able to board an airplane even after she reported a raised temperature.

Breakdowns in good practice notwithstanding, it’s important to remember that Ebola in the U.S. is largely contained and very unlikely to lead to any kind of significant outbreak. Still, the charges leveled against Frieden raise a question that leads to a surprisingly complicated answer: just what, exactly, can—and should—the CDC do?

Since time immemorial, public health officials’ main weapon against the outbreak of a disease as been to restrict the ability of people to interact with one another, also known as a quarantine. The term comes from the Latin “quadraginta,” meaning 40, and is derived from the 40-day period ships traveling from plague-stricken regions were kept at bay before being allowed to dock in medieval European ports.

Imposing a quarantine—effectively stripping innocent people of the most basic right to move freely in the world—is one of the most serious actions a government can take against its own citizenry. Partly for this reason, in the American federal system (designed from the outset to check the power of the national government) the power to quarantine resides largely with state and local authorities. Should Texas, or any other state, someday face the threat of a true epidemic, the states have broad authority to restrict the movement of people within their own borders. Public health codes granting the state power to impose quarantine orders vary from state to state, of course. Violating a quarantine order in Louisiana is punishable by a fine of up to $100 and up to a year in prison; in Mississippi the same infraction could cost a violator up to $5000 and up to five years in prison.

The federal government does have its own powers. The CDC, as the U.S.’s primary agency for taking action to stop the spread of disease, has broad authority under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution to restrict travel into the country and between states of an infected person or a person who has come in contact with an infected person, according to Laura Donohue, director of the Center on National Security and the Law at Georgetown Law School. Federal quarantine can be imposed, too, on federal property, like a military base or National Forest land. And as the preeminent employer of experts on public health crises, the CDC is always likely to get involved within any affected state in the event of a looming pandemic.

But its power to act is extremely restricted. The agency traditionally acts in an advisory role and can only take control from local authorities under two circumstances: if local authorities invite them to do so or under the authority outlined in the Insurrection Act in the event of a total breakdown of law and order.

And here the picture becomes murkier yet because authority does not always beget power.

“It’s not a massive regulatory agency,” said Wendy Parmet, a professor in public health law at Northeastern University in Boston. “They don’t have ground troops. They don’t have tons of regulators. They’re scientists. Even if the states asked them to do it it’s not clear how they would do it.”

Even in the highly unlikely event that the CDC were called to respond to a—let’s reiterate: extremely-unlikely-to-occur—pandemic, quarantine and isolation would be imposed not by bespeckled CDC scientists but by local or federal law enforcement or troops. Most importantly, the CDC is extremely reluctant to be seen as a coercive government agency because it depends as much as any agency on the good will and acquiescence of citizens in order to respond effectively to a public health emergency. When the bright lights of the Ebola crisis are not on it, the CDC will still need people to get vaccinated, to go to the doctor when they get sick, and to call the authorities if they see trouble.

“Our public health system is built on voluntary compliance,” Donohue tells TIME. “If the CDC starts to become the enemy holding a gun to [someone’s] head and keeping them in their house, they lose insight.”


8 posted on 01/31/2021 3:04:55 AM PST by Norski (Pilate saith unto him, What is truth?)
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> ...and makes refusal to wear a face-covering a violation of federal law <

Wait, what? The CDC is now making federal law? I must have missed a lesson in my high school civics class. I thought only Congress could do that.


9 posted on 01/31/2021 3:06:01 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Houmatt

I don’t recall the clause in the Constitution that gives an agency of the federal government the power to dictate what we must wear at any given time or place. Must be in one of those penumbras.

“We, the Unelected and Unaccountable, in order to more perfectly cement our power, establish a police state, insure domestic docility, provide for the common subjugation, promote our own self interests, and secure the blessings of tyranny to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Edict for the Communist States of America.”


10 posted on 01/31/2021 3:11:04 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Houmatt

I’m not sure how this is a law.


11 posted on 01/31/2021 3:11:28 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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“I’m not sure how this is a law.”

Just be silent and obey, comrade.


12 posted on 01/31/2021 3:16:03 AM PST by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: Houmatt

The very definition of tyranny: unaccountable power and control. The more we obey, the more they will seize.

Maybe one of our brave federal judges will stand up to the CDC. Maybe not.


13 posted on 01/31/2021 3:25:48 AM PST by Blennos ( )
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To: Houmatt

since when does the CDC make laws?


14 posted on 01/31/2021 3:28:52 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: Norski

But the difference here is while Ebola was a public health issue, COVID isn’t. Not a virus with a 99% recovery rate, and that’s according to the same organization. No, this is a power play, designed to exert power over you, the individual.


15 posted on 01/31/2021 3:30:25 AM PST by Houmatt (What isn't decided in court will be at the point of a gun. )
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To: ifinnegan

“I’m not sure how this is a law.”

Now you getting technical and applying outdated speak to make words fit your racist constitutional beliefs. It is time you embrace the leftist lexicon of 2021 where dictionaries derived from white privilege are obsolete and oppressive.

Law (noun)

2. a rule defining correct procedure or behavior in a sport.
“the laws of the game”
synonyms:
rule · regulation · principle · convention · direction · instruction · guideline · practice


16 posted on 01/31/2021 3:31:45 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: Norski

The CDC should be armed as completely as the US military/


17 posted on 01/31/2021 3:31:56 AM PST by Does so (Joe Biden: "I don't know what I'm signing". Off-screen female: "Just sign it". SERF--PEON Party. )
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To: Leaning Right

Maan, just when I learned how a bill becomes a law...Schoolhouse Rock doesn’t rock so much./s


18 posted on 01/31/2021 3:34:42 AM PST by GMThrust
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It’s NOT a law unless it were passed by Congress and signed by the pResident.


19 posted on 01/31/2021 3:39:11 AM PST by rfreedom4u ("You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas")
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To: Norski

They don’t hace ground troops my eye. Even NOAA has a force with fully automatic weapons. Citizens have short memories.


20 posted on 01/31/2021 3:40:25 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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