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To: yesthatjallen

The hell with feelings. We need facts.

While this is only one person’s perspective, the lack of results from the team and external observations appear to support his contentions.


3 posted on 01/28/2021 2:07:26 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired

Agree. For example, in AZ there were two claims:
1) That there were 37,000 Biteme ballots “dumped” by a machine in Pima Co on a single day; and
2) that there was fractional vote counting by machines (1.25 for Biteme, .75 for Trump) across the state.

Over time, not even the AZ GOP under the terrific Kelli Ward has pushed the first claim. To me, this is the ONLY claim that has a chance for the following reason:
Republican long-time poll operator and watcher Garrett Archer (the AZ Data Guru) has explained that we have full paper ballot backup. If 37,000 computer votes were “dumped,” they would be matched by 37,000 paper ballots at the same time in the same voting location. After the first claim of this was made, it was never again raised.

Second, there is strongly argued claim by Archer that the voting machines are incapable of registering a fractional votes. That would “seem” to be backed up by the paper ballot issue-—that you don’t have any precincts with a “half vote” left over.

Currently Ward is solely looking at the Maricopa County machines, fighting a battle in which the AZ MC Board of Supervisors is refusing under a legislative subpoena to hand over all the machines. They offer “some.” It is argued there are both cost and separation of powers issues to be dealt with. The former can be handled by donations; the latter, I don’t know. it may be true but it smells.

As for the story I’m sure we’d get a different story from Ellis, from Rudy, and from Powell. But even with GOP judges, it is troubling we could not get a single evidentiary hearing-—not from the President’s team OR from independent teams. So either there was a wide-ranging conspiracy to either kick the can down the road or to actively block Trump (could see the former, not really the latter) OR these suits were not written in such a way to achieve the necessary result.

What has bothered me from the get-go is Byrne’s claim that Rudy said “You can’t prove fraud in court.” I don’t think that fact is true, but I DO think that was in fact the driving legal philosophy, that they would nibble at absentee ballots and state laws, NOT national fraud.


57 posted on 01/28/2021 5:39:48 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: tired&retired
the lack of results from the team and external observations appear to support his contentions.

A testement to the fact that when GOVERNMENT POLITICIANS are in charge of the so called LEADERSHIP... there is actually NONE!

157 posted on 01/28/2021 1:23:53 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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