And all Pence had to do was not knowingly certify fraudulent electors.
This is what happens when you willingly cede power in an existential struggle.
There is no chivalry. No graceful extension of a helping hand by the victor.
Instead, blow after blow making sure you can never rise again, until the final, finishing coup de grace.
Been long in the making. Vae victis.
“And all Pence had to do was not knowingly certify fraudulent electors..
Damn straight! Indisputable violation of his sworn oath to support and defend the Constitution. Given its’ effect on our Republic, it is treason in my book.
“And all Pence had to do was not knowingly certify fraudulent electors.”
That’s a myth.
Report: Vice President Mike Pence Does ‘Not Believe’ He Has ‘Power to Block Congressional Certification’
Breitbart
HANNAH BLEAU
5 Jan 2021
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/05/report-vice-president-mike-pence-does-not-believe-he-has-power-to-block-congressional-certification/
“Some have speculated that the vice president could simply say, ‘I’m not going to accept these electors,’ that he has the authority to do that under the Constitution,” Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow said this week, adding “I actually don’t think that’s what the Constitution has in mind.”
“If that were the case, any vice president could refuse any election,” Sekulow said. “It’s more of ministerial procedural function.”
>>And all Pence had to do was not knowingly certify fraudulent electors.<<
Have you read the constitution? I mean, I’m not looking for a pissing match, but the constitution does not subscribe those powers to the Vice President. It is NOT there.
Pence may have put the nail in the coffin of our Republic**
**Kumala may want to let “The Big Guy” know that America is in fact a Republic and not a democracy!
Yep.
Just give it back to the states. That was all he had to do.
His legacy is certainly sealed, now.
I don't blame just Pence for the decline of America. Mr Roberts and Mr Barr are equally to blame. IMHO they are all Benedict Arnolds and should receive the same punishment. The real questions though are who pulled their strings during the election steal (grand theft-election) and who is pulling Biden's strings now? It is quite obvious to even the most casual observer that Old Joe's synapses are not in working order.
He could have resigned his VP position on the spot. He could have threw his hands up in the air and said he would not be a part of the election FRAUD. NOTHING Constitutionally prevented him from doing so, and WHO in the USA cannot simply quit their job over their conscience?
Hint: I did- I was a whistle blower and union carpenter at a nuclear power plant, but got my fill and tapped out over safety violations and called my superior out, who then moved me elsewhere in the powerplant as if that remedied the safety violations. It was tough duty, but I would do it all over again. I dropped out of the union, but- to this day, I receive a pension that I earned fair and square.
Like asking Ford to stay behind during the Fall of Saigon.
Where were the alternate slates of Electors with the imprimatur of both that state's legislature and signed off by that state's Governor? More to the point, the House and the Senate must both vote in the majority to throw out the electors of any challenged state's slate.
The fact that 1 Congressman and 1 Senator, can object to every electoral slate (50 states + DC) is not Constitutionally not enough to actually disqualify that state's slate. Got to have both the House & Senate votes.
So anyone who 'thinks' U.S.C. 12 permitted the VP to act extra-constitutionally is talking out of their southern extremity (not a curse word, Mr. Jim). As it was, Pence approved the 1+1 objection to the AZ elector slate just before everyone was moved down to the subway, and he approved the 1+1 objection to the PA elector slate after they returned, rejecting enormous pressure to simply ignore the PA challenge after the protestor tours of the Capitol.
The VP can’t throw out Electoral ballots. The Constitution says the VP opens the envelopes that contain the ballots, nothing about the VP rejecting ballots.
Congress votes on whether to accept or reject ballots, and they did exactly that this January. It’s up to the states and to Congress to resolve disputes about electors and ballots, the VP has no power in the matter.
That's the square root of the equation right there. Well said.
Trust the plan.
There has been some dispute over whether or not Pence had the authority to do that.
He should have. If nothing else, it would have sent it to the courts.