The RNC asking for support is hilarious...I won’t ever support them again. There are others that crapped in their mess kit, like “Heritage and the Faith and Freedom Coalition who mailed me $1.00 with a big picture of Mitch McConnell!
I tore up his picture and will spend the dollar happily!
Not one of these orgs lifted a finger to question the results of the election. They accepted the cheating that was obvious and, to me, they are “never-Trumpers” and won’t get a dime from me.
Hojczyk, I hope you don't mind my posting this on your thread. (I posted it on another thread yesterday) It bears directly on the remark by Jan_Sobieski, which is important and relevant.
Any thinking person understands the downside of a third party candidate: You will end up having two candidates chasing the same number of votes, while very little changes for the other side, whose vote pool will stay the same.
Easy.
Thing is, Conservatives are on the horns of a dilemma.
- On one horn of the dilemma is the standard handicap of a Conservative third party: It is a sure loser unless they totally dissolve the Republican Party. Not happening. Even if 90% of the current Republicans were to join the new party, it would still be a loser. With elections commonly being decided by far less than 10%, even if 90% joined the new party, the margin of victory would only be even. So, we aren't going to win there.
- On the other horn of the dilemma is the extreme and justified anger of Conservatives who have seen that participating in the electoral process is not only meaningless, it compounds the insult by reinforcing the legitimacy of a totally corrupt electoral process which is something a large number of Conservatives are loathe to do.
- Add to that the completely disgusting behavior of Republicans who, when not actually helping perpetrate and cheering on this fraudulent, screaming, dog's breakfast of an election, sat on their damned hands and put duct tape over their mouths instead of speaking up when it counted.
- And the combination of those two insults have inflicted a deep and grievous wound on the some of the most dedicated conservatives out there, who are resolved not to vote in a farcical electoral process, or are not going to vote for a Republican.
- The comment by Jan_Sobieski at post #4 is illustrative of this issue, and it is critically important. It isn't just talk, and we see and hear a lot of it. And we need to take that into account. We can deny it, we can exclaim "Don't say it!" and we can rightfully say it will not work. But it is a fact. I live in a blue state, where voting for a candidate other than a non-Democrat President is a completely pointless vote, and I get to speak to solid conservatives who say they will not vote for a Republican again, and it is the vast majority. And on Free Republic, we have a lot of people who say it. And I don't have a doubt they mean it.
- Meaning at a minimum, 30% of conservatives are going to refuse to vote for one or both of those reasons above. And that spells electoral defeat no matter what.
What this boils down to is, whichever horn we take, we get gored electorally. We lose.
Granted, when confronted by the horns of a dilemma, there is always a third choice.
You can try to go between the horns and ride it out. In this case, that means just continuing on as if the electoral process was not completely and totally broken at worst, or at best, trying as the minority party, to reform and fix the electoral process.
It is clear that option is not going to work for two main reasons:
- The Republican Party is not the least bit interested in fixing the problem, with minor exceptions. They have fully shown by both their participation in the fraud and the silence when they should have spoken, they are interested only in riding the gravy train. They don't have the votes or the inclination to change the electoral process and fix it.
- The Democrat party is fully in on not only cementing the electoral fraud permanently, but extending it much further. Look at the newly introduced "For The People Act of 2021" which was introduced on 1/4/2021. That has a bunch of really cool stuff, including mandating Internet Voting, just to name one. You get the idea.
We don't know what will happen. It is possible that the Left will foul things up so badly that even the people perpetrating the fraud won't want to steal another election. But we cannot count on those kinds of things.
Therefore, we are looking at wandering in the wilderness for a few more election cycles, maybe the next two, possible three Presidential elections. That is a long time.
The upshot of this is, in my opinion, is that we have nothing to lose by starting a new party. Nothing. And the sooner we start, the sooner we might get out of the woods.