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Trump Was No Reagan?
Chronicles ^ | January 21, 2021 | Paul Gottfried

Posted on 01/22/2021 5:30:45 AM PST by Ebenezer

National Review has found yet another reason to hate Trump, whom it has attacked relentlessly for over four years. It seems that among his multiple shortcomings, according to Frank Lavin, a supporter of Republican Voters Against Trump in 2020, Donald Trump was not the Gipper. In fact, he caused the Republican Party to deviate grievously from Reagan’s policies; and so it now behooves us to save the GOP by returning to the proven “conservative” teachings of the president whose approval ratings approached 70 percent shortly after leaving office.

Lavin offers a study in contrast between the Gipper and Trump. In most ways (except in his tax-slashing and deregulation policies), Trump dragged the GOP away from the firm foundations that Reagan bequeathed to his followers. For example, Reagan had “values,” while presumably the Donald has none that we can praise. While Reagan stressed cooperation with the opposite party, Trump was always at war with the Dems. Or as Lavin tells it: “Reagan occasionally found support from Speaker Tip O’Neill. Trump ended up with nothing from Speaker Pelosi.” The contrast continues with Lavin noting: “Reagan set the stage for NAFTA with his call for a ‘North American Accord.’ Trump sided with Bernie Sanders in withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.”

Allow me to point out that Trump did not scuttle the idea of trade deals with Canada and Mexico. He renegotiated them in a way advantageous to the American working class. He also renegotiated those parts of the TPP that he found helpful to the American work force, although pace Lavin and National Review, I don’t recall Bernie Sanders leaping to Trump’s defense.

In another National Review piece, this time by Alexander William Salter, I admit to being bewildered by this passage: “It’s true that some of the Trump administration’s policies, notably on immigration and international trade, were deviations from conservative orthodoxy, but these were hardly successes.” Was the “conservative orthodoxy” to which we should be returning the absence of border walls? And how was Trump unsuccessful if he stopped the flow of illegals into the U.S., even in the face of massive opposition from the Democrats and from members of his own party?

Was Reagan’s amnesty in 1986 something that Trump should have imitated? I can’t imagine why. The only beneficiaries were the corporate interests that gained cheap labor, and the public sector that issued welfare checks to unemployed Americans. That amnesty did nothing to relieve the continuing problem of illegal immigration, and Reagan later spoke of it as “the biggest regret” of his life.

Returning to Lavin’s piece, it’s important to realize that he ignores a changing historical context. In the 1980s, the Democratic Party of Tip O’Neill bore little resemblance to the party that Trump had to confront as his relentless enemy. Back then Democrats were still a party of blue-collar workers (a class that Trump tried to bring into his populist movement). Tip O’Neill was an Irish Catholic ward-heeler from Boston, who represented a working-class base; Nancy Pelosi by contrast speaks for culturally radical San Franciscans in a transformed Democratic Party, which today features LGBTQ demands, anti-white hysteria, Green New Deals, and which fights the gender identity war. Why would anyone think that Trump would not have gotten along with Tip as well as Ronnie did; or that Reagan would have enjoyed a better relationship with the present Democratic Party than Trump has? We are speaking about different forces of opposition to the GOP in two different eras.

Although Reagan faced critics in the leftist media, as someone who briefly served in his administration, let me assure Mr. Lavin that this sniping was nothing like the nonstop, venomous attacks to which Trump was subjected from the moment he declared his candidacy for the presidency. I have no idea how anyone but an absolute saint would not have exploded in the face of such slander; and it was directed not only against the president but also against his wife and young son. Never in my long life have I seen such a feeding frenzy.

Attacks on Trump as another Hitler and calls for assaults on him became commonplace over the last four years; and I strongly suspect that if Reagan has been forced to deal with such adversaries his approval rating and his temper would both have taken a hit. Reagan left office with a 63 percent approval rating, which by 1989 went up to 68 percent. We might ask what that approval rating would have been if the media threw dirt at him incessantly and if his congressional opponents incited riots against him throughout his presidency. Please note these attacks occurred not just because the Donald was intemperate in his language. The Left wanted power, and it was necessary to destroy Trump’s presidency to achieve it.

Finally, I would note that, unlike Reagan, Trump tried to be a transformative president who took his own party kicking and screaming into the populist form that he gave it. Although an honest, dedicated leader, Reagan transformed nothing. He also ended up turning foreign policy and much else over to the neoconservatives, who hang around like the political equivalent of the COVID-19 pandemic.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; nationalreview; reagan; ronaldreagan; trump
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To: Ebenezer
Reagan transformed nothing.

Yup, the whole dramatic transformations that occurred after he won the cold war, all fake like the moon landings /sarc

21 posted on 01/22/2021 6:03:23 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: Ebenezer

Trump is not Reagan. Ever.
the very notion is as absurd as the Obama-is-Lincoln was


22 posted on 01/22/2021 6:03:26 AM PST by wny
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"...far better than Reagan in my opinion."

Indeed...he accomplished FAR more than Reagan against much stiffer resistance. Best president of my lifetime (which started in 1947).

23 posted on 01/22/2021 6:04:39 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

What good for the country was ever the result of a conservative “getting along” with a liberal Dem? It ALWAYS meant our side was capitulating and moving left.


24 posted on 01/22/2021 6:05:36 AM PST by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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To: Ebenezer
He also ended up turning foreign policy and much else over to the neoconservatives, who hang around like the political equivalent of the COVID-19 pandemic.

25 posted on 01/22/2021 6:09:48 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Ebenezer

Reagan did amnesty, gave us the Bushes, and Colin Powell. All bad things.


26 posted on 01/22/2021 6:12:58 AM PST by euram
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“far better than Reagan in my opinion.”

Agree!!! Reagan did try, but I’ve read that he lost a lot of energy after taking that bullet, so The Swamp was able to survive.

Trump never lost any energy, but was forced to fight a swamp much more ruthless and corrupt than what Reagan had to deal with


27 posted on 01/22/2021 6:14:40 AM PST by BobL (TheDonald.win is now Patriots.win)
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To: Ebenezer

PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP is the GREATEST president in modern times.

THE GREATEST !!

MAGA !!


28 posted on 01/22/2021 6:16:05 AM PST by Pearfect (ou.)
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To: Ebenezer

As bad as the mediots hated Reagan they became unhinged at Trump. Best counter puncher evah!


29 posted on 01/22/2021 6:29:17 AM PST by bray (Pray for fake President Biden)
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To: Ebenezer
President Trump is on a par with George Washington.
He is no longer POTUS, BUT he Will continue to WIN for We The People.
30 posted on 01/22/2021 6:51:15 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: Nateman

The dims back then we’re not as rabid nor was the press (the same) . After Clinton things got really ramped up.


31 posted on 01/22/2021 6:51:16 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Ebenezer

There has been no more effective conservative president during my lifetime than Trump. And that includes Reagan.


32 posted on 01/22/2021 7:03:21 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Mine too


33 posted on 01/22/2021 7:11:22 AM PST by Democrat = party of treason
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To: Ebenezer

34 posted on 01/22/2021 7:12:58 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Agree !
If one looks at accomplishments per time in office, absolutely !


35 posted on 01/22/2021 7:19:43 AM PST by Reily
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To: Ebenezer

National who? Bunch of orphans without supporters making noise and trying to be noticed. Ignore them.


36 posted on 01/22/2021 7:25:57 AM PST by NWFree
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To: Ebenezer

Man..... I’m gonna miss that guy as I sure wasn’t tired of winning. It’s a shame really that all couldn’t work together for the good of US. Imagine the strides that would’ve been made. BEST PRESIDENT IN MY LIFETIME. MAGA.


37 posted on 01/22/2021 7:28:04 AM PST by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: BobL
Ronald Reagan's role was not to clear the Swamp, his role was to clear out the Soviet problem.

It is Donald Trump's role to clear out the Swamp, which he is in the middle of doing.

Can you imagine how difficult it would have been if Trump had not only China and North Korea and Iran to deal with but also the Soviet Union?

Reagan's role in his day was imperative, as is Trump role today.

38 posted on 01/22/2021 7:47:06 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: TexasFreeper2009

A million times better then Reagan.


39 posted on 01/22/2021 7:52:21 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: Ebenezer
RR and POTUS are not the same. Each was very much suited to his time and place.

I read the article to see if anything had changed. 'Surprisingly,' the 'conservative' magazine that ran 'The Case Against Trump' in 2016 is pushing the same line.

40 posted on 01/22/2021 8:48:15 AM PST by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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