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Caligula’s Garden of Delights, Unearthed and Restored
NYTimes ^ | 1/12/2021 | Franz Lidz

Posted on 01/16/2021 4:05:22 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker

I’d have thought there would have been beavers in Caligula’s garden.


21 posted on 01/16/2021 6:24:31 PM PST by Rebelbase (COVID misanthrope)
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To: LibWhacker

A fragment of Accius’ play Atreus features the line oderint dum metuant (”let them hate, so long as they fear”), later an infamous motto of Caligula.


22 posted on 01/16/2021 6:54:40 PM PST by Scram1
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
“Got the BBC production of I, CLAUDIUS on DVD. Also read the books”

Great book and a great way learn Roman history. Livia doesn’t come off well.

23 posted on 01/16/2021 7:12:46 PM PST by circlecity
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The fourth of the 12 Caesars, Caligula...
The 12 Caesars is a reference to Suetonius' work "The Twelve Caesars", but for the sake of nitpickers out there, Caligula was a mere nickname (that he hated) for Emperor Gaius, and he was only number three on the formal list of emperors. Imper iter was an informal, acclamation type title, and was applied to Pompey and others before it was applied to Gaius Julius Caesar.

24 posted on 01/17/2021 6:54:06 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SteveH; 240B; 75thOVI; Adder; albertp; asgardshill; At the Window; bitt; blu; BradyLS; cajungirl; ..
Thanks SteveH. This is also the Digest ping topic, and apologies for the recent falloff in GGG digest pings!

25 posted on 01/17/2021 8:13:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: circlecity; Ruy Dias de Bivar
I, Claudius is not a great way to learn Roman history, it's a TV version of a couple of entertaining trash romance novels. And, definitely worth seeing. I've been considering starting my annual binge-watch this month. :^)

26 posted on 01/17/2021 8:18:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I Claudius faithfully follows the history of the Caesars as relayed by Suetonius and Tacitus.


27 posted on 01/17/2021 8:21:14 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Graves’ two books are historical novels, not works of history. There are invented characters, the conversations are largely imaginary. So, no, not history. In the miniseries, Sejanus bloody stabbing is (sort of) shown, while the real Sejanus was strangled.


28 posted on 01/17/2021 8:32:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yet the story, the events and the main characters are true to history. Like all good historical fiction.


29 posted on 01/17/2021 8:38:52 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

And yet, they aren’t. Historians write history, novelists write fiction.


30 posted on 01/17/2021 8:45:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yet the book was researched massively. One can be a novelist and historian as Robert Graves is. Most of us consider historical research to be history. I learned much more about Roman history and culture from I Claudius than I did from Gibbon’s Rise and Fall.


31 posted on 01/17/2021 9:17:03 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

A person can also pick up a lot of British history from reading the Flashman novels by George MacDonald Fraser.


32 posted on 01/17/2021 10:40:58 AM PST by dsc (Do not pray for easy lives; pray to be stronger men.)
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To: LibWhacker

Today’s politicians aren’t any different........................


33 posted on 01/18/2021 5:21:04 AM PST by Red Badger (TREASON is the REASON for the SLEAZIN'.................................)
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Caligula’s Roman Palace Discovered
The Telegraph (UK) | 8-8-2003 | Bruce Johnson
Posted on 8/7/2003, 7:30:54 PM by blam
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Roman dig backs ancient writers’ portrait of megalomaniac Caligula
Guardian | Aug., 03 | John Hooper
Posted on 08/29/2003 3:54:32 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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Stanford, Oxford archaeologists find evidence that depraved tyrant annexed sacred temple
Stanford Report, September 10, 2003 | September 10, 2003 | BY JOHN SANFORD
Posted on 09/12/2003 1:57:26 PM PDT by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/981470/posts


34 posted on 04/01/2021 8:58:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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