Posted on 01/13/2021 7:34:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Just play by their rules, who cares if they are a growing majority, secessionists run the powers of government, do what’s best for Texas and others can leave. Figure out the details later. There may have to be financial sacrifice for this to happen but liberty isn’t without sacrifice. If dems can add 2 or more states on a whim then states should be able to leave when they want
The Resolution of Annexation, Dated March 1, 1845, had no such language. What it gave Texas the right to do is: "Third -- New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution; and such states as may be formed out of the territory lying south of thirty-six degrees thirty minutes north latitude, commonly known as the Missouri Compromise Line, shall be admitted into the Union, with or without slavery, as the people of each State, asking admission shall desire; and in such State or States as shall be formed out of said territory, north of said Missouri Compromise Line, slavery, or involuntary servitude (except for crime) shall be prohibited."
In other words - it gave Texas the right to divide into 5 states.
But it does not have the legal right to secede. It would have to secede and possibly be a rebel state, and face the possibilities of a civil war with the Federal government.
Secession was and always will be extrajudicial. The colonies had no right to leave England legally. I would encourage people to read the declaration of independence it lays out the natural human rights of self governance in language the common man can understand. Texas citizens have the natural right to choose self governance and the consent of the governed. If the majority of Texans vote for independence we have the right to say so by God and if the feds deny that right then it’s tyranny and fighting tyranny is obedience to God it’s our duty to fight tyranny with arms to the death if need be. Once independence has been declared the consent to be governed by the existing government is null and voided. People get too wrapped up in the “legality” of secession that’s a logical fallacy secession is always outside the existing laws by it’s very nature. Ears are fought for independence for a reason , Texas has won three times already once against Spain when it was then part of the newly independent Mexico then from Mexico and again as part of the USA when Mexico tried again in the Mexican American way to annex Texas. We would have to fight the Fed’s make no.mistakes about it but it’s a fight worth killing for. Patton famously said wars are not won by dying for your country it’s making the other poor sap die for his.
That’s what a big part of the debate will be about. A non binding referendum vote would merely express the sentiment of Texans but a binding referendum would force the governor to call in the legislature and start secession proceedings.
I just don’t think there would be public support this time around to compel states to stay in the Union by force.
Of course, a government that holds rigged elections doesn’t necessarily need to care overly much about public support...
The US Army has only 1,000,000 troops and 2/3 are fat lazy weirdo remfs.
convention of states needed , but probably too late
How can the other states follow when unlike Texas, they were never a Republic?
By having the legislature declare independence and stopping sending taxes to Washington.
Not rocket science, is it?
No - Texas does not have a right to secession. You are historically misinformed (and yes, I am from Texas).
Every state has a right to secession.
Texas could raise a million man provisional army in 24 hours.
What happens to it now if you renounce your citizenship? Assuming a peaceful separation I would expect Texas would be the same way.
They are bound by the Constitution, same as every other state. Even those who were independent before being admitted. If Texas wants to leave it would require the approval of both houses of Congress. Same as any other state.
In most cases if you renounce your citizenship and move to another country you can still collect Social Security. Medicare doesn't cover medical expenses outside the U.S. currently so I would assume the same for an independent Texas.
the Spanish government ruthlessly suppressed the Catalonian Independence movement, imprisoning its leaders. The Feds, under the Democrats, would do likewise.
You’re comparing Catalonia and Texas. How does gun ownership compare in these two places?
Don’t get me wrong, an independent Texas would be better than a Federal government under the control of leftists, which is only six days away. Better that the state government vastly expand its State Guard, including heavy weapons like tanks and artillery and a real state run air force and navy as a prelude to a drive for independence. In 1775 and 1861, the independence side was in a better position militarily vs. their opponents than the states are now.
Texas should be governed by Texans and Texans alone.
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I wish I had never left Texas. I loved Texas. I made a very poor choice by leaving and going to Oregon.
However, there is no choice but to believe the statement of how it has changed in the last 10 years....e.g. very few native Texans compared to the people who have come into TX from not only the lower 48 states but Mexico...I think I would not appreciate that at all unless each one gave an unvarnished commitment to the State of the Future.
The last 10 years? How about the last 70 years. I could possibly lose everything but I’d risk it for my grand children’s future and I am not alone.
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