Posted on 01/13/2021 7:34:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
The Texit effort is slated for a major boost this week with the introduction of a bill in the Texas State Legislature that would put the question of secession into a referendum form to voters on the November 2021 ballot.
The notion of secession is increasingly being discussed across the country in the wake of what many believe was a gerrymandered election and a complete failure and abdication of the judicial system to affect justice for the American people.
Additionally, a vast majority of people are aghast that the federal government is doing nothing to secure their First Amendment rights to free speech, freedom to redress government, and freedom of association in the face of draconian censorship by Big Tech companies whose products have become ipso facto utilities in the modern age.
America is coming apart at the seams. We don’t want to admit it but it’s true. Eventually we will have to talk seriously about secession and national divorce. I’ve been saying it for years. Maybe the time has finally come.
— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) January 7, 2021
But in the State of Texas, talk has turned to action.
Texas State Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R), a conservative and former hardware store owner and gun dealer, says he will introduce a bill that would place a referendum on secession on the November ballot as early as this week.
Without revealing any specifics, the referendum would query whether Texas should assert its independence from the United States.
“The federal government is out of control and does not represent the values of Texans,” Biedermann wrote in emailed comments. “My office has been flooded with support from not only Texans, but like minded patriots across the country.”
If his bill advances out of committee debates and hearings, it would be put to a vote before the 150 State Representatives and 31 State Senators.
In Texas, the Legislature convenes at noon on the second Tuesday of January in odd-numbered years for no more than 140 days, thus avoiding the spendthrift policies of the federal government.
Biedermann is not alone in his want to seriously discuss a practical and legitimate way forward in the face of a transformative effort away from the US Constitution and the rule of law in Washington, DC.
Allen West, chairman of the Texas State Republican Party, floated a form of the idea after a Texas-led lawsuit aimed at holding five battleground states to their own constitutions with respect to election law was dismissed by the US Supreme Court.
“Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution,” West said in a statement immediately after the High Court Ruling.
The Texas GOP had a fit after the Supreme Court rejected their bid to flip the election in Trump's favor, and now they're hinting at secession https://t.co/DmoKBImblN
— Business Insider (@businessinsider) December 12, 2020
And Rush Limbaugh discussed the idea as well, saying “I never would advocate for secession…I’m simply repeating what I have heard,” but, he said, “a sizable and growing sentiment” for secession is percolating amongst the citizenry from coast to coast following the election results.
Is Limbaugh correct?https://t.co/7yyfaj9FzI
— Doctor-Elect Bloviating Zeppelin (@BZep) January 13, 2021
There has been buzz about secession across the State of Florida as well, with many citizens calling on Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), to entertain the idea.
How would secession affect those of us on social security? Medicare?
How does the nullification of 75 million people’s votes effect people on medicaid and medicare?
RE: How would secession affect those of us on social security? Medicare?
Just two good questions. How about the military? Are they going to have their own Army, Navy and Air force?
And how about foreign policy? Are all residents of other states going to need visas to enter Texas and vice versa?
there’s obviously been a latent secession movement in Texas for a very long time. Don’t know about you... but when I look around the urban centers of Texas I see very few Texans. Mostly out-of-staters and many people not from the USA. While many Texans would support secession and probably even more in a year when the radical left’s grip on power is really being felt, I think the demographic shift has been too much for a majority to ever support secession in Texas.
people not here in the mix don’t understand how much Texas has changed, especially in the last 10 years.
Exactly the same. Iou’s will be delivered irespective of country of origin or present geopolitical coordinates
The newly formed federal government would have its own version of medicare and SS. The taxes to pay for it would come from the taxes that were previously paid to the US treasury.
I am not a Texan, but as a very interested observer I suggest that the best way to keep them in the nation is to create a third party with the goal of recruiting all of the repub conservatives, many of which would be Texans.
That would give the new party a good start with good people and immediate financing.
After secession Texas would be an independent country with an Army Navy etc. Just like the other 195 countries of the world.
They send social security checks to Mexico....why not the Republic of Texas?
RE: I suggest that the best way to keep them in the nation is to create a third party
First things first — FIX THIS ROTTEN, CORRUPT ELECTION SYSTEM! Without it, we all but ensure a PERMANENT government ran by Democrats.
Texas has a right to secession. They were a republic when they joined the US. It is in their agreement to join the US.
If this succeeds, the question is will other states follow?
Yes and yes to all your questions. Just like Brexit without the long winded 4 year BS drama in the UK. Same currency, make passports, military, have embassies around the world etc.
Not the “it’s not you, it’s me” break up. More “I hate you and I got nothing from this relationship because you’re turning into a fat, ugly. old hag” break-up.
RE: If this succeeds, the question is will other states follow?
How can the other states follow when unlike Texas, they were never a Republic?
Texans are tired of living under 180,000 pages of federal laws, rules, and regulations administered by 440 separate agencies and 2.5 million unelected bureaucrats.
If all federal laws, rules, and regulations were printed out and stacked, it would be taller than the San Jacinto Monument. This is an affront to those who fought and died in whose honor that monument is erected.
Texas should be governed by Texans and Texans alone. We should not have our political destiny determined by California, New York, or any other state.
Forming a third party rather than leaving the union would resolve all of the problems and questions regarding SS, national defense, borders, etc.
Texas will have to build a whole lot of wall all the way from Orange, Texas to Brownsville.
The only place I’ve found with push back on secession is here on Free Republic. My friends, family, and other chat rooms I go to all talk about openly, seriously and some are considering it. Only here is there an instant hostility against the idea....
California was talking secession after one of the recent elections
The California Independence from the United States Initiative (#16-0011A1), also known as the Calexit Initiative, was not on the ballot in California as a combined initiated constitutional amendment and state statute on November 6, 2018. The initiative was informally referred to as Calexit in reference to Great Britain’s 2016 Brexit vote.[1][2]
On April 17, 2017, Louis Marinelli, the president of the supporting Yes California group, announced the campaign was ending. Campaign officials stated that Marinelli’s connection to Russia was hurting their fundraising. Marcus Ruiz Evans, former vice president of Yes California, joined the California Freedom Caucus (CFC). Ruiz Evans said the CFC hoped to have its own independence initiative proposed by May 1, 2017.[3]
https://ballotpedia.org/California_Independence_Referendum_in_2021_Initiative_(2020)
California Independence Referendum in 2021 Initiative (2020)
The California Independence Referendum in 2021 Initiative (#18-0001) was not on the ballot in California as an initiated state statute on November 3, 2020.
The measure would have placed a referendum on the ballot for an election on May 4, 2021, which would have asked: “Do you want California to be an independent country in the form of a republic?”[1]
Should a majority of votes cast be in favor of independence, the initiative would have instructed the California State Legislature to issue a California declaration of independence from the United States.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_and_secession_in_California
California National Party
Main article: California National Party
Founded in 2015, California National Party (CNP) is a political party advocating a pragmatic platform. The CNP also seeks, as a long-term goal, the secession of California from the United States by legal and peaceful means. The name and mission of the California National Party are partly inspired from the Scottish National Party, a social democratic, civic nationalist, center-left party advocating progressivist policies and independence for Scotland.[46][47]
California Freedom Coalition
Main article: California Freedom Coalition
The California Freedom Coalition is a political group, founded in 2017, advocating for the political, economic, and social empowerment of Californians. It supports universal healthcare for Californians, greater representation for California in the U.S. Congress, and more funding for education in California, as well as the possibility of Californian independence.
Yes California
Main article: Yes California
In the wake of Republican nominee Donald Trump’s winning the 2016 presidential election, a fringe movement organized by Yes California, referred to as “Calexit” - a term inspired by the successful 2016 Brexit referendum, arose in a bid to gather the 585,407 signatures necessary to place a secessionist question on the 2018 ballot.[48] In July 2018, the objectives of the Calexit initiative were expanded upon by including a plan to carve out an “autonomous Native American nation”[49] that would take up the eastern part of California, and “postponing its ballot referendum approach in favor of convincing Republican states to support their breakaway efforts.”[49] “Yes California” was founded by Louis J. Marinelli, a New Yorker who moved to Russia, and was supported by the Russian government.[50]
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