Posted on 01/12/2021 7:43:52 AM PST by Hostage
In the first week of January, Telegram surpassed 500 million monthly active users. After that it kept growing: 25 million new users joined Telegram in the last 72 hours alone. These new users came from across the globe – 38% from Asia, 27% from Europe, 21% from Latin America and 8% from MENA.
This is a significant increase compared to last year, when 1.5M new users signed up every day. We've had surges of downloads before, throughout our 7-year history of protecting user privacy. But this time is different.
People no longer want to exchange their privacy for free services. They no longer want to be held hostage by tech monopolies that seem to think they can get away with anything as long as their apps have a critical mass of users.
With half a billion active users and accelerating growth, Telegram has become the largest refuge for those seeking a communication platform committed to privacy and security. We take this responsibility very seriously. We won’t let you down.
Those of you who have used Telegram for the last several years know we’ve been consistent both when it comes to defending private data and to improving our apps. For those of you who just joined and are wondering what Telegram stands for, I’d like to quote my post from 2018:
You – our users – have been and will always be our only priority. Unlike other popular apps, Telegram doesn’t have shareholders or advertisers to report to. We don’t do deals with marketers, data miners or government agencies. Since the day we launched in August 2013 we haven’t disclosed a single byte of our users' private data to third parties.
We operate this way because we don’t regard Telegram as an organization or an app. For us, Telegram is an idea; it is the idea that everyone on this planet has a right to be free.
we have decided to go with telegram, too.
Trump will hopefully set up the finances and infrastructure for a third party. until then.
and wow. 25M and those would be more youthful, tech savy folks right? that’s a third of the 75M.
Dang!
All this time I assumed that it was just an offshoot of Western Union and was in business only to serve illegal immigrants...
If you use a Google phone it doesn’t matter if its on an app store.
Signal is open source. You would be able to get the source and build it yourself (which also means you can modify it if there is something you don’t like). Thats how it used to be, not sure about now
Catch up.
Here's another:
Pavel Durov denied the myth of the “Russian” Telegram and criticized WhatsApp
https://gadgettendency.com/pavel-durov-denied-the-myth-of-the-russian-telegram-and-criticized-whatsapp
Durov vs. Dorsey
Pavel Durov, Russian ------------------- Jack "Effing Traitor" Dorsey
Not even a moment's hesitation.
Until we have an American with patriotic values and a solid platform for internet comms, we are stuck with what we can use without being censored.
Durov doesn't censor anyone. So for now, he's it.
Other platforms, MeWe, Wego, CloutHub, etc. all have immaturities in development, they haven't 'honed' in yet. Same with video sharing alternatives to YouTube such as Rumble, BitChute. BitChute is getting better but still a ways to go. Gab has no smartphone App so is not vulnerable to Google, Apple Playstores giving them the boot. They are viewable on a PC. I am testing some remote view PC screen Apps from Android in order to see GAB from a phone,
There are Linux phones. Here's a recent FR thread on the subject:
"PureOS – a pure Linux phone experience"
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3924027/posts
And you know who else hailed from a Russian family? This guy right here who saved the USA from Soviet nuclear attack (by their own admission) and kept them at bay for decades:
The problem with us Americans is some of us worship the fed dollar and will sell out in a NY minute to kiss a$$ for money. And as long as the rest of us are free to be fat, dumb and happy, the sell outs will continue sticking their snouts in fed dollar stew. But the minute we are fearful for our happy sleepy bliss, such as when we witness a presidential election stolen, we get pissed and the sellouts get fearful. So if we have to make friends with some Russians to help us figure out how to tar and feather our sellouts, then so be it.
There is evidence Twitter has had their hand in Signal and monitors it. Why would Dorsey endorse it? See discussion above.
Bkmrk
OK which telegram app there are several in the app store?
Doesn’t matter actually. I don’t know why they endorsed it, maybe they were thinking, “How can we keep our little terrorist safe from the government”. That may have been the context. Now that they ARE the government they may not be so ken on it. Signal is open source, you can go download the code yourself and if you had the knowledge you could even setup your own private signal server.
I don’t know exactly what is running on the app stores but as far as messaging systems go you’re probably not going to get more open than signal; and, as I said, there is always the options of setting up your own private signal network amongst you and your friends.
Wake up and do your due diligence. Signal was developed by a Twitter IT security guy and is pushed on others by Dorsey.
Telegram is also open source if that’s what floats yo9ur boat.
“All of Telegram’s official apps are open source. Telegram provides end-to-end encrypted calls and optional end-to-end encrypted “secret” chats between two online users on smartphone clients, whereas cloud chats use client-server/server-client encryption.”
And the last sentence is where Twitter gets you monitored, “cloud chats using client-server/server-client encryption.” They are playing you.
But here’s the kicker.
Twitter is a known weaponized political censor. Telegram is not.
I didn’t know Telegram was open source; great. My point is, if you know what you’re doing, the open source nature changes the game. You don’t have to run it on public servers, you can point all of the clients (android, apple) apps to your machine directly. I get that you hate twitter, I do as well. Open source is open source. It may be a different thing to download signal from android or apple but that’s now your only option. I’ll look into Telegram.
You miss he point. If you take an open source product and use cloud services to facilitate its operation, it doesn’t matter that it’s open source.
Just a quick look into Telegram and they use public API’s and not open source which is different and actually easier to send your data to a third party (not saying they are doing that but there isn’t really a way to know). Public APIs means that they let you use their services but you you can’t see the source code. This is closer to the ideas behind cloud than signal (just a quick look).
I don’t know that they are using cloud services anywhere. You can download the server and build it on your own machines. If they are using public APIs on top of that I don’t know but Telegram is itself a public API. If you want to find out if signal is using cloud services you can; can’t say the same for Telegram.
Fine. not all is perfect in every context. But ask yourself who is censoring?
I am not following what Dorsey is pushing others to follow especially when one of his IT security guys helped start up the app that he’s pushing and pros in the field say Dorsey’s people are fooling people into thinking their chats are private when they’re not.
I’ve used Signal and it’s fine but it’s tainted by a traitor to the USA so I am frowning on it.
In the interest of saving time, you can just go to gab.com in the phone’s browser. You don’t need apps for most of these things. The only one that really tries to force you to use one is fascistbook as far as I know.
Thanks fellow prisoner.
Face to face? Watch out for the HAL 9000. Reads lips I hear. :)
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