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AP Analysis: Trump’s rage ignites mob assault on democracy
The Associated Press ^ | January 7, 2021 | By JONATHAN LEMIRE

Posted on 01/07/2021 3:25:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Posting LINK only. This is an over-the-top AP attack on Donald Trump and his peaceful supporters. BARF alert.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; ap; associatedpress; donaldtrump; election2020; journalism; media; mob; press; presstitutes; trump
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To: OIFVeteran
Never thought I’d see the day when someone on a conservative site that is pro-America would advocate burning America’s capitol to the ground. SMFH.

I never thought I'd see a day where members were allowed to repeat the spin of the left-wing media and get away with it.

81 posted on 01/07/2021 9:27:39 AM PST by Kazan
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To: OIFVeteran

Enjoy the zot.


82 posted on 01/07/2021 9:32:14 AM PST by MercyFlush (Donald Trump is my President and Free Republic is my social media!)
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To: nevergore
You can suggest anything you want but to not recognize that PDJT had no influence on the events yesterday strains credulity.....

The event was perfectly appropriate. When massive voter fraud occurs, if there is no mass resistance, we become Venezuela north or worse.

There is goo reason to believe Antifa members were the ones smashing out windows and it that part was setup that you're falling for, hook, line and sinker, disgustingly repeating the media spin..

But what point do you suggest the mass rise up and stop that, ultimately. and by any means necessary? At some point, armed resistance is 100% justified if elections are rigged. The Berlin wall fall. The Soviet Union was overthrown. All justified.

All this outrage after months of the leftists destroying cities with complete media blackout, Democrat party consent and minimal responses from the media.

83 posted on 01/07/2021 9:38:00 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

His rhetoric was inflammatory for the bulk of his speech to a crowd that was already upset and angry...He urged them to march on the capital and that he would lead.....

Mass Rallies yes, mass protests yes.....

Yesterday’s protest turned into attacking police, breaking and entering, and vandalism.....

Of course, Antifa was there, that’s what Anarchists do, they co-op other protests regardless of issue or side.

So quit the moral superiority act and false bravado.....

Please, please, please try to have me zotted, I’ve been here since 1998...Never been zotted, I like firsts...


84 posted on 01/07/2021 9:51:26 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: Kazan
"At some point, armed resistance is 100% justified if elections are rigged. The Berlin wall fall. The Soviet Union was overthrown. All justified."

BTW, the Soviet Union didn't fall to armed resistance nor did the Berlin wall......

85 posted on 01/07/2021 9:54:59 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: nevergore
BTW, the Soviet Union didn't fall to armed resistance nor did the Berlin wall......

A mob didn't tear down the Berlin wall? And, just sledge hammers to do it?

86 posted on 01/07/2021 10:18:31 AM PST by Kazan
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To: nevergore
Yesterday’s protest turned into attacking police, breaking and entering, and vandalism.....

How many of those incidents were being committed by Antifa members?

And, why was far worse violence during the George Floyd riots and ongoing violence in Portland constantly condoned, ignored or downplayed by the same people outraged by what happened yesterday? You're not seeing the spin in all of this?

87 posted on 01/07/2021 10:21:23 AM PST by Kazan
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To: nevergore
His rhetoric was inflammatory for the bulk of his speech t

GOOD! He and Trump voters have EVERY right to be angry at the voter fraud that occurred. If not and, if all necessary means aren't on the table going forward, THIS COUNTRY TURNS INTO VENEZUELA or WORSE. That matters. And, anything done to avoid that fate is justified.

88 posted on 01/07/2021 10:24:01 AM PST by Kazan
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To: nevergore

Do you think if Budapest 1956, or Prague 1968, or Gdansk 1970, didn’t happen, that the Wall would have come down?


89 posted on 01/07/2021 10:26:15 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nevergore
BTW, the Soviet Union didn't fall to armed resistance nor did the Berlin wall......

So, the leaders of the Soviet Union just realized communism failed and just quite? Are your serious? Of course, they were forced out by a mob. That was the only way to get rid of them.

Do you think there wasn't a violent uprising in the American Revolution, too?

Are you appalled by Thomas Jefferson's Tree of Liberty quote that says the tree must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants?

You'll living in a fantasy world if you don't think a violent uprising is sometimes necessary to combat tyranny.

And, note, I didn't say that time had occurred yesterday nor did Trump.

90 posted on 01/07/2021 10:27:22 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

The correct reference was the American Revolutionary War.....hence, armed conflict.....

Yelstin in USSR started the decline and Gorbachov finished it with the former “soviet states” leaving.... very peaceably for the most part.....

Here’s a great article on it called “The Quiet Collapse of the USSR”.

https://www.e-ir.info/2014/05/24/the-quiet-collapse-of-the-soviet-union/

You need to have a better understanding of history. In the much-quoted Thomas Jefferson quote from his 1787 letter to William Stephens Smith, the son-in-law of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson used the phrase “tree of liberty”. In context, Jefferson then living in France was commenting on the Massachusetts insurrection.


91 posted on 01/07/2021 11:17:28 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: dfwgator

Those events had little to do with the collapse.......

The Soviet Union fell apart due to its own ineptness and economic collapse.....


92 posted on 01/07/2021 11:21:55 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They won’t prosecute Antifa instigators.

Photos, Reports Show ANTIFA Infiltrators Stormed the Capitol Building
https://gellerreport.com/2021/01/photos-reports-show-antifa-infiltrators-stormed-the-capitol-building.html/

Liberals instigated violence at Trump’s rallies in 2015 and 2016 to make conservatives look bad.

The same thing is happening here. And it was done to justify systematic oppression of conservatives by Biden-Harris AND scare Republicans into rolling over on the Electoral College vote that was going on.


93 posted on 01/07/2021 11:46:08 AM PST by tbw2
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To: nevergore

I was alive and remember the fall of the Soviet Union. Communists didn’t give up power willingly. They never do. It’s silly for you to imply they weren’t forced out of power by a mob.


94 posted on 01/07/2021 11:52:42 AM PST by Kazan
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To: nevergore
Was the American Revolution a justified use of force? Yes or no?

How would overturning rigged elections be a different scenario?

Good grief. Our nation has encouraged and armed freedom fighters to overturn tyrannical governments. Have you heard of the Contras in Nicaragua? You realized Ronald Reagan armed them?

95 posted on 01/07/2021 11:58:06 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Not only was I alive during that time, but I was also in the midst of it......

I could write volumes.....

Now just stop... :^)


96 posted on 01/07/2021 11:59:14 AM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: Kazan

Kazan...

Love your zeal and enthusiasm.....

I have a firm grasp of history.... been a part of a lot of it......Old, but not Revolutionary War old...but a Patriot and a veteran nonetheless.....

Best regards,
Nevergore


97 posted on 01/07/2021 12:04:02 PM PST by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: nevergore

“ BTW, the Soviet Union didn’t fall to armed resistance nor did the Berlin wall......”

It was a mixed bag...Romania certainly did. And the Berlin Wall was certainly taken down by force - the arms were sledgehammers and picks, but they were arms and it was forcible.


98 posted on 01/07/2021 12:09:53 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

There were riots in Leipzig in the weeks before the Wall came down.


99 posted on 01/07/2021 12:10:25 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nevergore

That’s a way of conceding that I’m right — that armed revolt is justified and necessary sometimes to prevent or overcome tyranny?


100 posted on 01/07/2021 12:11:22 PM PST by Kazan
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