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The missing flu riddle: 'Influenza has been renamed COVID,' maverick epidemiologist says
Just the News ^ | January 1, 2021 | Daniel Payne

Posted on 01/02/2021 8:45:05 AM PST by Hojczyk

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To: mewzilla

Influenza will not generate a positive covid test and vice versa


21 posted on 01/02/2021 9:07:01 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: mewzilla

I was speaking with a niece in Miami FL who works for the hospital systems in Miami. She kept going on about how many cases of Covid they have in the hospitals. I asked her how many cases of FLU do they have. She point blank answered NONE. When I questioned her how can that be when we have tens of thousands of deaths every year from the flu and now there are none? She reiterated there have been NO flu cases reported. Go figure..


22 posted on 01/02/2021 9:07:12 AM PST by carikadon (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: mewzilla
Early on, if you remember, they kept saying they were seeing co-infection.

Last March, a close friend of our family, a young guy, was sick and subsequently hospitalized with pneumonia. They told he he tested positive for flu. Then later told him it was CV, co-infection.

On a related note, that entire family just got over it. He had just coronavirus this time (supposedly) and it was much more mild than what he had last spring.

23 posted on 01/02/2021 9:07:50 AM PST by riri (Hope is not a strategy at this point- Sam Andrews)
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To: mewzilla

You had covid


24 posted on 01/02/2021 9:07:54 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

This might help clarify things a bit.

My ER tests results...a long list

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3920875/posts?page=18#18


25 posted on 01/02/2021 9:08:51 AM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Irenic

What if damp, moist unwashed masks are SPREADING the virus to healthy people? Where are the lawyers?


26 posted on 01/02/2021 9:09:19 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: Covenantor

that is a typical viral respiratory panel although more commonly we text for i only 4 - covid, flu a, flu b, and RSV


27 posted on 01/02/2021 9:10:40 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

test for only 4 should be


28 posted on 01/02/2021 9:11:18 AM PST by Mom MD
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29 posted on 01/02/2021 9:11:56 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Hojczyk

“Masks....are all effective counter-measures against colds and flu.”

Odd. Until 2020, all the science said masks were worthless against viruses. Good against bacteria, blood and snot, though....


30 posted on 01/02/2021 9:16:09 AM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: mewzilla

For the record, YES. A few Fridays ago, I woke up with a bad sore throat. I figured I was getting a cold, as a sore throat is the first symptom I typically have. Three days later, on Monday, I was sneezing a lot, and my nose was running. Furthermore, I felt achy and had a fever. I went to the local urgent care center, where they rapid-tested me for both COVID and infuenza. I tested negative for both. But because I had a fever and was aware of false positives and false negatives, I requested another test for COVID to be sent out for further evaluation. I got the results 3 days later which indicated I was negative for COVID. I was not further tested for influenza. I was given a flu vaccine in early November. I was told by the the urgent care center that a person could still get the flu if they had a flu vaccine.

Interestingly, I was told to quarantine until the “send out” result came back. So I quarantined for 3 days until I got the results. So you see, there is uncertainty among healthcare providers regarding the rapid tests. But if I had not requested the “send out” test, would I have been advised to quarantine? If not, people are being sent out into the population without further testing.

My conclusion based on my experience: the rules are unscientific, inconsistent, and lacking in consensus. A recipe for abuse and tyranny. AND, one can feel very crappy during a pandemic and test negative for COVID.

I hope this is helpful to others.

And by the way, I’m a registered nurse.


31 posted on 01/02/2021 9:16:23 AM PST by dsat4life (Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty . . . who was, who is, and is to come!! Amen!)
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To: mewzilla

Not for many months. No fda clearance. Just now seeing assays that test for both simultaneously.
Still about 90 percent covid only testing, especially for pre procedural clearance and asymtomatic tests.
Since early april only 1 target required to be covid pos. This means if the nonspecific covid marker is pos, you have covid.


32 posted on 01/02/2021 9:17:35 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: Irenic

I have found that many stores in rural areas will leave you alone without a mask...the opposite of urban areas. Guess who gets my business. :-)


33 posted on 01/02/2021 9:18:02 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: carikadon
how can that be when we have tens of thousands of deaths every year from the flu and now there are none?

The answer is that CDC has been lying to us about the flu for years. A much smaller number of Americans die from the flu each year. So, CDC started "estimating" the number of flu deaths to be much, much larger... because CDC wanted to convince more people to get flu shots.

34 posted on 01/02/2021 9:19:20 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: dsat4life

The. you should know there are many respiratory viral infections out there besides covid and influenza. Had one myself a couple weeks ago with 2 negative covid tests


35 posted on 01/02/2021 9:20:20 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: momincombatboots

Are the treatment protocols for severely ill WuFlu and influenza patients similar enough than an incorrect diagnosis wouldn’t adversely affect the patient?


36 posted on 01/02/2021 9:21:46 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: null and void

As usual, FReepers are ahead of the curve. We’ve known this for many months, now.

Anybody else sick of being played for a SUCKER, yet?

“Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Free everyone else.”

LIBERATE WISCONSIN! LIBERATE AMERICA!


37 posted on 01/02/2021 9:22:50 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Hojczyk

Data reveals total deaths from all causes in 2020 is about what is is for the past several years. Why??

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19


38 posted on 01/02/2021 9:24:03 AM PST by elpadre
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To: null and void
This Covid~19 B$ was never intended to protect/help our health, our family's, our friends' and unknown millions of Americans!

It is past the time to: Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Free everyone else.

39 posted on 01/02/2021 9:24:24 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Elites love lockdowns /restrictions, because they keep us, the little people out of their way!")
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To: Mom MD

Yes, that was the point I was making. I certainly wasn’t arbitrarily sick. I had a virus—or something else—just not COVID, at least according to the tests. I think we have lost sight of other bugs with all the focus on COVID.


40 posted on 01/02/2021 9:33:06 AM PST by dsat4life (Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty . . . who was, who is, and is to come!! Amen!)
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