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'Science has and will come to the rescue:' Fauci says vaccines likely to protect against new COVID-19 strain
thehill ^ | 12/31/2020 | Alexandria Kelley

Posted on 12/31/2020 9:10:35 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

Science should not have faith in a vaccine or process which has not been proven to work.


21 posted on 12/31/2020 9:56:17 AM PST by Widget Jr
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Timothy McVeigh, Oklahoma City bomber, “Science is my religion.”


22 posted on 12/31/2020 9:57:43 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: dljordan

I sure wish one of the five or so investigative journalists left in the world would get to the bottom of that question.


23 posted on 12/31/2020 9:57:58 AM PST by crosdaddy
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To: Maudeen

B.I.N.G.O.


24 posted on 12/31/2020 10:00:02 AM PST by viewfromthefrontier
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To: ChicagoConservative27

A number of different treatments are showing that TREATMENTS are going to eliminate most fatalities from the Wuhan Virus when they are done early enough, and before long a vaccine for what is not fatal will be unnecessary. Instead, with treatments, folks immune systems will kick the virus and herd immunity will be established without a vaccine.


25 posted on 12/31/2020 10:02:07 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Darteaus94025
Timothy McVeigh, Oklahoma City bomber, “Science is my religion.”

Yep, and yet the Left loves to portray him as the "Poster Boy" for the Christian Right.

26 posted on 12/31/2020 10:03:18 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Trust science? Fauci’s admission he misled public puts scrutiny on Biden alliance!

Fauci’s “apparent willingness to mislead the public in support of his preferred policy objective should disqualify him from providing public policy advice in any official capacity,” said Jay Bhattacharya, professor of medicine at Stanford University.

Joe Biden’s decision to hold over Dr. Anthony Fauci in his administration as his chief medical advisor as a symbol of his commitment to “trust science” is coming under new scrutiny following Fauci’s recent admission that he altered public scientific estimates based on opinion polls.

In a Christmas Eve interview with the New York Times, Fauci acknowledged he had offered a lower estimate of the level of herd immunity necessary to stop the COVID-19 pandemic because he thought Americans would be demoralized by his true thoughts on the issue.

Fauci recently raised his estimate on the herd immunity threshold “partly based on new science,” the newspaper reported, “and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.”

Fauci had previously admitted that in the spring, during the early phase of the pandemic, he misled the public about the efficacy of face masks in limiting the spread of COVID-19.

Fauci’s admission that he tailored his herd immunity threshold estimate to PR needs drew the ire of Jay Bhattacharya, professor of medicine at Stanford University. Bhattacharya is a co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration, which called for replacing “devastating” coronavirus lockdown policies with a new, less restrictive strategy.

“Dr. Fauci’s apparent willingness to mislead the public in support of his preferred policy objective should disqualify him from providing public policy advice in any official capacity,” Bhattacharya told Just the News on Monday. “Dr. Fauci’s advice throughout the epidemic has ignored the science regarding the devastating physical and psychological harms of the lockdowns, to which he seems utterly blind. For a policy advisor, science should inform policy preference, not the other way around.”

Dr. Harvey Risch, professor of epidemiology and public health at Yale University, said Monday that Fauci seems to have ignored the acquired immunity of the 20 million Americans who have tested positive for COVID-19, as well as the estimated 125 million Americans who have had the infection asymptomatically.

“I don’t believe that Fauci has ever provided unvarnished, truthful advice,” Risch told Just the News. “What he really meant is that 90% of the population needs to be immune for the pandemic to more-or-less go away completely. But this is not what he said.”

“Also, you may notice that the WHO removed the fact that having the infection provides immunity,” Risch continued, “now bizarrely stating that immunity only occurs from vaccination. You can guess why WHO (and Dr. Fauci) would manipulate public opinion against scientific knowledge.”

Fauci’s office at the National Institutes of Health did not respond to request for comment from Just the News.

With no vaccination, the pandemic “will be largely over by spring in the Upper Midwest and by summer in a large part of the U.S., with the states that have had the strongest lockdowns continuing their epidemics the longest, perhaps into the fall,” Risch said. “Vaccination may help to make this earlier. The issue is mortality not case counts. Everyone is focused on case counts but that is wrong. Whether by natural immunity or vaccination, we need people to become immune, that is what ends the pandemic.”

Fauci’s New York Times interview drew a scathing rejoinder from Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), who tweeted: “Almost everything Fauci has said this year has been exaggerated, misleading, and/or flat-out wrong. He is not to be trusted under any circumstances. Americans must reject his doctrine of destruction before his fantasies lead to the end of our freedoms.”

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/health/trust-science-biden-facing-scrutiny-keeping-fauci-after-doctor-says-polls


27 posted on 12/31/2020 10:06:06 AM PST by Grampa Dave (If voting could change anything, they would not let us do it...!!! Posted by glasseye, 12/19/2020!)
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Sen. Marco Rubio: Dr. Fauci lied about coronavirus — I am appalled by his arrogance!

Thanks to our news media’s monomaniacal obsession with President Trump, few have paid attention to an important interview that Dr. Anthony Fauci gave last week, in which he acknowledged that he selectively lied to the American public about the coronavirus and what was needed for our national recovery.

The story is straightforward. For most of this year, Dr. Fauci and other scientists in our public health establishment have been telling Americans that about 60 to 70 percent of the nation would need a vaccine in order for us to reach herd immunity and make the coronavirus a non-issue.

But, speaking with The New York Times, Dr. Fauci admitted that he believes the real number is in fact significantly higher — perhaps 75 to 90 percent — and he declined to be forthright because he felt the country wasn’t ready to hear it. Only now did he say that he feels he has the freedom to “nudge this up a bit” without discouraging the nation.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-marco-rubio

Placing blind faith in unelected celebrity scientists has its limits, and we must not be afraid to call them out!


28 posted on 12/31/2020 10:07:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave (If voting could change anything, they would not let us do it...!!! Posted by glasseye, 12/19/2020!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Obama, Fauci visiting NIH lab in 2014.

29 posted on 12/31/2020 10:09:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (If voting could change anything, they would not let us do it...!!! Posted by glasseye, 12/19/2020!)
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To: Red Badger

I got the pneumonia shot and got pneumonia a year later lol. Course it might been less deadly as a result, I don’t know, but wow was I sick. Several days in hospital. Coincidence I know, but a still.


30 posted on 12/31/2020 10:10:35 AM PST by Bob434
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Fauci has ZERO credibility
31 posted on 12/31/2020 10:11:32 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Grampa Dave

That must be one of those things they call “A Major Award”.


32 posted on 12/31/2020 10:11:43 AM PST by VastRWCon (Fake News")
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To: Bob434

There are different types of pneumonia:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK525768/


33 posted on 12/31/2020 10:12:59 AM PST by Red Badger (TREASON is the REASON for the SLEAZIN'.................................)
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To: Maudeen

Cuomo came out nad declared that the virus was getting better in his state NOT because of prayers, NOT because of God, but because of him and science. Il. See if I can find his direct mocking of God quote


34 posted on 12/31/2020 10:13:47 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Maudeen

God did not do that. Faith did not do that. Destiny did not do that,” he stressed. “A lot of pain and suffering did that.”

The 62-year-old governor stated that the data is a “direct result of what we do.” He warned that if people “do something stupid,” the numbers will “go right back up tomorrow.”
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“You get on the scale every morning. ‘I lost five pounds. I lost five pounds. I’ve lost five pounds.’ Oh, you’re declaring that you have lost five pounds forever? No, [if] I lose self-discipline today and I go home and I eat like a horse and I’ll get on that scale, it’s going to give me a different number tomorrow,” Cuomo explained.

“And that’s why we lost five pounds because we went out every day and we exercise and we burned more calories than we ate. That’s how it works. It’s math. And if you don’t continue to do that, you’re going to see that number go back up. And that will be a tragedy if that number goes back up.”

In an interview with CNN the next day, Cuomo reiterated his claim.

“Our behavior has stopped the spread of the virus,” he said. ”God did not stop the spread of the virus. And what we do, how we act, will dictate how that virus spreads.”

https://www.christianpost.com/news/ny-gov-cuomo-on-plateauing-of-covid-19-cases-god-did-not-do-that.html


35 posted on 12/31/2020 10:17:49 AM PST by Bob434
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So they now can just magically state that an existing vaccine will probably work on a new mutation without any trials or long term testing? Sounds like science to me. Pseudo science.


36 posted on 12/31/2020 10:21:53 AM PST by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah t hats probably what happened. I didn’t know much about it all just that I was plenty sick. Interestingly, I was way low on potassium and they gave me some towards the end of my stay and it really gave me a good boost energy wise.

So I get back home and 2 days later get a call from the hospital telling me they had a scabies outbreak at the hospital and to watch for symptoms lol. Fortunately I didmt get it .


37 posted on 12/31/2020 10:22:17 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434

I am chronically low in potassium as well.

https://www.webmd.com/diet/foods-rich-in-potassium#1


38 posted on 12/31/2020 10:24:31 AM PST by Red Badger (TREASON is the REASON for the SLEAZIN'.................................)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Who even listens to this fool?


39 posted on 12/31/2020 10:24:36 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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40 posted on 12/31/2020 10:27:23 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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