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To: rmlew

I would agree in general. It was eventually a Rome decision but was handed back.

Luke 23:11-16 English Standard Version

11 And Herod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him. Then, arraying him in splendid clothing, he sent him back to Pilate. 12 And Herod and Pilate became friends with each other that very day, for before this they had been at enmity with each other.

13 Pilate then called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people, 14 and said to them, “You brought me this man as one who was misleading the people. And after examining him before you, behold, I did not find this man guilty of any of your charges against him. 15 Neither did Herod, for he sent him back to us. Look, nothing deserving death has been done by him. 16 I will therefore punish and release him.”

Matthew 27:24-26 English Standard Version

Pilate Delivers Jesus to Be Crucified

24 So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this man’s blood;[a] see to it yourselves.” 25 And all the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!” 26 Then he released for them Barabbas, and having scourged[b] Jesus, delivered him to be crucified.


Kinda surprised me that even Mick Jagger noted Pilate washed his hands and (thereby) sealed his (own) fate.

If Jagger wrote that song. I haven’t looked.


91 posted on 12/31/2020 12:43:38 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

“Sympathy for the Devil” is a song by English rock band the Rolling Stones, written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. It is the opening track on their 1968 album Beggars Banquet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathy_for_the_Devil


92 posted on 12/31/2020 12:46:45 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris
Pilate didn't meed Herod. He met Antipas (Herod Antipas), son of Herod the Great. This was shorthand and known to the early Christians, but something missed by later Christians, especially those who didn't come from Jewish communities. Another thing so evident to these Jewish Christians as not to need to be mentioned is that the Tetrarch Herod Antipas and the other "Jewish" Officials were Roman collaborators, chosen by the Romans or other collaborators.
This would have been like the Nazi governor of the Netherlands arguing with Dutch Collaborators over whether a prisoner were dangerous and should be killed, but accepting the position of the collaborators and killing the prisoner. If someone said every Dutch person in the room were guilty and this guilt would affect their children, everyone would understand that it relates only to the collaborators.The Dutch people would in no be way guilty. Jewish Christians, who wrote the Christian Bible, understood this. Later Christians lacked this context.
93 posted on 01/03/2021 8:09:12 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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