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To: Rurudyne

The heart of God is not revealed in Romans 1:18-32 which is a picture of the hopeless condition of man (which is why Jesus had to die in the first place) and the utter futility of anyone, you or I included, trying to be righteous by their own works.

Although the world including you and I are in miserable condition without Christ, God did not condemn you, me, or the world, but loved us and saved us (John 3:17). There is, therefore, no room for us to judge others because their sins have been completely dealt with 2000 years ago - a blank love-check - whether or not the blank check is accepted. To condemn another for their sin is to commit unrighteous double jeopardy because Christ has already fully paid their (our) debt and has been fully judged and condemned for every sin anyone has committed (1 John 2:2).

The whole teaching of grace in Romans and the New Testament is that we are saved and justified by grace without our works (God justifies the ungodly Romans 4:5), that righteousness is a gift, righteousness is not what we do (Romans 5:17), and God does not impute the world’s or America’s or American’s trespasses to them (2 Cor. 5:19), but rather continually seeks reconciliation to himself (vs. 20).

So the issue now is not sin, it is Christ which you must receive to be saved. But God is NOT condemning the unbeliever, he is seeking to save that which was lost (Luke 19:10).

Quit condemning those who don’t know him who God wants to reconcile to himself. That is what the Pharisees did (and do now). Jesus was and is the friend of sinners but no friend of the Pharisees.


78 posted on 12/27/2020 5:57:13 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

“ Quit condemning those who don’t know him who God wants to reconcile to himself. That is what the Pharisees did (and do now). Jesus was and is the friend of sinners but no friend of the Pharisees.”

I’m not doing that.

Romans 1:18-32 arguably has to do with those who know God’s purpose and the Gospel but refuse to honor the Son still. Who else refuses to retain knowledge but those who have some? Recall what was said of the scribes and Pharisees, that they do not enter the kingdom and try to prevent others from entering. Those potentially already under wrath are doing just that as well, only they would be teaching false gospels and advancing unholiness and unrighteousness while playing church in a modern context.

Also, Universalism (if that’s what you mean to indicate) is bunk. You do have to be reconciled on the Lord’s terms while you still have time, and everyone only gets so much time. Christ didn’t warn of Hell because it seemed fashionable but because it was and remains very real. The broad way that leads to destruction still exists even though it is not the Lords desire for people to perish. It exists because people love unrighteousness ... even those who may not know much about Christ (one reason why friendship with the world is enmity towards the Lord should be that, as I said before, it can help give those perishing a sense of they are alright and they don’t need to repent).

As for works, you’re correct that they do not save. I’m not saved because I work, but I can have works and reward because I’m saved. The works themselves are a gift too, for He prepares them beforehand for us to walk in them.


79 posted on 12/27/2020 6:27:52 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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