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To: Jim W N

“ Quit condemning those who don’t know him who God wants to reconcile to himself. That is what the Pharisees did (and do now). Jesus was and is the friend of sinners but no friend of the Pharisees.”

I’m not doing that.

Romans 1:18-32 arguably has to do with those who know God’s purpose and the Gospel but refuse to honor the Son still. Who else refuses to retain knowledge but those who have some? Recall what was said of the scribes and Pharisees, that they do not enter the kingdom and try to prevent others from entering. Those potentially already under wrath are doing just that as well, only they would be teaching false gospels and advancing unholiness and unrighteousness while playing church in a modern context.

Also, Universalism (if that’s what you mean to indicate) is bunk. You do have to be reconciled on the Lord’s terms while you still have time, and everyone only gets so much time. Christ didn’t warn of Hell because it seemed fashionable but because it was and remains very real. The broad way that leads to destruction still exists even though it is not the Lords desire for people to perish. It exists because people love unrighteousness ... even those who may not know much about Christ (one reason why friendship with the world is enmity towards the Lord should be that, as I said before, it can help give those perishing a sense of they are alright and they don’t need to repent).

As for works, you’re correct that they do not save. I’m not saved because I work, but I can have works and reward because I’m saved. The works themselves are a gift too, for He prepares them beforehand for us to walk in them.


79 posted on 12/27/2020 6:27:52 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne
Those potentially already under wrath

If Christ took the full measure of God's wrath for everyone's' sins (1 John 2:2) and condemning one for a wrong that has already been fully paid for is unrighteous double jeopardy, who do you think is under God's wrath?

people love unrighteousness

Oh you mean like you and me not only before we were saved but in our flesh after we we're saved? You condemn and judge others while denying it but in doing so, you condemn yourself. (Romans 2:1). You are no better than anyone else. If you think someone else who you target is under God's wrath, so are you.

80 posted on 12/27/2020 6:41:58 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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