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No. 2 GOP senator: Efforts to overturn election would 'go down like a shot dog'
The Hill ^ | 12/21/20 11:22 PM EST | BY JORDAIN CARNEY

Posted on 12/21/2020 11:24:08 PM PST by RandFan

Sen. John Thune (S.D.), the No. 2 Senate Republican, warned on Monday that efforts to challenge the Electoral College vote in Congress next month would fall short in the Senate.

The GOP senator — who has publicly and privately pushed back against the effort being led by Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) — argued that it would be futile to force both chambers to vote on an objection to the Electoral College vote that is "not going anywhere."

"I mean, in the Senate, it would ... go down like a shot dog," Thune told reporters. "I just don't think it makes a lot of sense to put everybody through this when you know what the ultimate outcome is going to be."

His comments come after a group of House conservatives met with President Trump and Vice President Pence on Monday at the White House to strategize on the effort to challenge the Electoral College votes when Congress formally convenes to count and certify the votes next month.

"Big meeting today with @realDonaldTrump, @VP, the President's legal team, @freedomcaucus and other Members of Congress. I will lead an objection to Georgia's electors on Jan 6. The courts refuse to hear the President's legal case. We're going to make sure the People can!" Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.) tweeted about the meeting.

Brooks has said he's spoken with Senate Republicans who are receptive to his plan, though none have said they plan to object. Sen.-elect Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) has said he's considering it, something that earned him public praise from Trump. A group of 2024 hopefuls is also being watched closely.

Thune said on Monday that he didn't know of a GOP senator, or an incoming GOP senator, who had committed to challenging the election results on Jan. 6.

"I don't know where they're getting that. I've seen public statements from a couple of Republicans, incoming Republicans, but I don't know that anyone is committed to doing it," he said when a reporter noted that House Republicans claim that a senator supports their effort.

The push by Brooks and others to use Congress's vote to prolong the election fight has put a spotlight on divisions between House and Senate Republicans, who have made it clear they are ready to move on.

Thune, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), a member of GOP leadership and the Senate Rules Committee chairman, used a private caucus call last week to warn members of the caucus against challenging the results on Jan. 6.

Several House Republicans have said they are backing Brooks's effort, but to successfully force a debate and vote on his objection, he’ll need support from at least one GOP senator. That’s only happened twice since 1887, according to the Congressional Research Service.

If both a House member and a senator object, the two chambers would have to meet separately, debate the issue and then have a majority in both chambers vote to uphold the objection to a state’s slate. A lawmaker has never been able to successfully throw out a state's results.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: 2020; 2020election; fraud; gopestablishment; johnthune; realitysettingin; rinos; stopthesteal; tds; thune
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To: RandFan

Cops shoot dogs Multiple times every single day Nobody cares.

Perhaps he should have send politicians in his rhetoric.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-23/dont-shoot-dogs-growing-epidemic-cops-shooting-family-pets


81 posted on 12/22/2020 4:36:41 AM PST by zek157
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To: Maudeen

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


82 posted on 12/22/2020 4:37:20 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: RandFan
Thune, sorry but if we give up, there will be NO FAIR ELECTIONS anymore. The Elites will control us peons. Us PEONS decided to to be PEED ON anymore.

Do you think you won't lose by fraud, Thune? We want fair elections, not fraudulent elections...

83 posted on 12/22/2020 4:38:05 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (We might be DEPLORABLES, but we don't CHEAT like Dems)
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To: cranked

You may still be able to make a difference.

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


84 posted on 12/22/2020 4:38:11 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: DesertRhino

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


85 posted on 12/22/2020 4:38:40 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: RandFan

They pass laws but refuse to stand behind them.


86 posted on 12/22/2020 4:38:54 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: BillyCuccio

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


87 posted on 12/22/2020 4:39:17 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Kazan

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


88 posted on 12/22/2020 4:41:07 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


89 posted on 12/22/2020 4:41:35 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Kevmo

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


90 posted on 12/22/2020 4:42:02 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Altura Ct.

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


91 posted on 12/22/2020 4:42:28 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: FatherofFive

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


92 posted on 12/22/2020 4:43:00 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: rolling_stone

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


93 posted on 12/22/2020 4:43:29 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: MachIV

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


94 posted on 12/22/2020 4:43:49 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Cboldt

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


95 posted on 12/22/2020 4:44:13 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: CommieCutter

I suggest we start calling Thune’s state office numbers and tell them you will be donating to his opponent in 2022 if he does not acknowledge and take action on the obvious election fraud.

Sioux Falls, SD
(605) 334-9596

Aberdeen, SD
(605) 225-8823

Rapid City, SD
(605) 348-7551


96 posted on 12/22/2020 4:44:42 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Candor7

China Mitch has been grooming Thune to be Senate Minority Leader. His comments here are no surprise.


97 posted on 12/22/2020 4:48:04 AM PST by lodi90
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To: RandFan

“...down like a SHOT DOG.” Really? Not funny. Not cute.


98 posted on 12/22/2020 4:49:56 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: RandFan

This spineless asshole is a prime example of why the 17th should be repealed. The Senate is supposed to represent the state, not a party, spineless ideals, leftist or personal agendas.

SD is a solid red state where one of the strongest conservatives exist - Krist Noem. If the 17th did not exist, this jackass would be taking orders from her, not the deep state.

The 17th Amendment needs to be abolished and replaced with term limits. There also needs to be something done on the order of truth in media.


99 posted on 12/22/2020 4:51:55 AM PST by redfreedom (Member of Agent Orange Health Club Since 1969)
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To: odawg
Although it is good he said that, in case Trump has any illusions that he can get a fair hearing from the Senate Republicans.

I am convinced that the key to all of this is for Trump to refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the Congressional elections in districts using Dominion and Hart voting machines and/or software, as well as the results of the Senate races in AZ, MI, and GA. He should use the Insurrection Act to require revotes as needed by paper ballots. This would mean that the House would either lack a quorum to meet, or that the Dems would be in the minority. By calling in to question the legitimacy of the Congressional results, Trump can make this more than about him. It would also show that the Republican nest of vipers in the Senate cares only about their own power, not their party or their country.
100 posted on 12/22/2020 4:59:22 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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