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Toyota CEO Agrees With Elon Musk: We Don't Have Enough Electricity to Electrify All the Cars
PJ Media ^ | DEC 21, 2020 | BRYAN PRESTON

Posted on 12/21/2020 4:15:45 PM PST by george76

Toyota makes a lot of cars, so many that it’s the world’s largest or second-largest auto manufacturer every year.

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So Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda’s comments at the company’s year-end press conference deserve notice and no little amount of respect. He knows more about cars and their economic ecosystem than just about anyone else on the planet.

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“The more EVs we build, the worse carbon dioxide gets… When politicians are out there saying, ‘Let’s get rid of all cars using gasoline,’ do they understand this?”

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failure to count the cost of what politicians are proposing. More EVs will demand more electricity.

Toyoda is getting at two things. One, EVs are not powered by magical unicorn emissions, they are powered by the means we use to generate electricity. In the Japan, the United States, and everywhere else

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Wind is not economically competitive yet, so it’s subsidized by the government. Neither wind nor solar are cheap or reliable enough yet to displace oil and especially natural gas in our grid. The wind doesn’t always blow and the sun doesn’t always shine. Oil and natural gas always burn.

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The second issue Toyoda is getting at is that petroleum isn’t just a fuel, it’s the foundation of thousands upon thousands of products we rely on every day. Cars alone have plastic and other petroleum-based parts throughout their systems and interiors. There is as of yet no reliable or economical replacement for the petroleum used to manufacture those parts

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Perhaps two of the world’s leading car experts should be listened to before Tokyo, Washington, or any other capital follows California’s lead and bans gas cars without considering the ripple effects.

(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: automotive; electricity; elonmusk; energy; hybrids; infrastructure; prius; tesla; toyota; twofaced; youaskedforit
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To: Jonty30

“For starters, there is just not enough copper for all that wiring needed or sand for theoretical zero resistance wiring. There also the lack of recognition that hydrocarbon byproducts is 100% recyclable by nature.”

Land reserves of copper could supply enough to build four EV’s for every person on earth. Vast amounts of copper also exits in our oceans.

23% of copper usage is from recycled copper.

80% of mined copper mined is still in use.


141 posted on 12/22/2020 6:50:12 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: mbj

No doubt they will call the Skin Effect racist.


142 posted on 12/22/2020 6:51:00 PM PST by Kevmo (I feel like I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Kevmo

“Show everyone how it is incorrect. Maybe it’s only 23% instead of 24%, thus making your statement true but your point false.”

I did. #135. Basic logic. Sorely missing around here.


143 posted on 12/22/2020 6:52:05 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: mbj

The dams I have visited all had diversion streams for migrating fish. Some of them are even screened from above to ward off predators.


144 posted on 12/22/2020 6:53:14 PM PST by Kevmo (I feel like I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: TexasGator

Can you show numbers rather than snark?


145 posted on 12/22/2020 6:54:57 PM PST by Kevmo (I feel like I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Kevmo

“Can you show numbers rather than snark?”

See my #143


146 posted on 12/22/2020 6:56:10 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: rottndog

It’s both.


147 posted on 12/22/2020 6:57:07 PM PST by Kevmo (I feel like I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Kevmo

“Can you show numbers rather than snark?”

Not a snark. Statements of fact on where his errors were.


148 posted on 12/22/2020 6:59:14 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Tell that to the nuke engineers at google who filed patents. And guys like Yoshiaki Arata (who died recently but the point is still valid) who were instrumental in their country’s nuclear development programs. Arata had some of the highest civilian awards such as naming buildings after him. I doubt anyone ever named a building after you.


149 posted on 12/22/2020 6:59:42 PM PST by Kevmo (I feel like I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: TexasGator

Why is it like pulling teeth to get you to post numbers rather than invective?

You have a crappy attitude. Post numbers first, then snark. DUHH.

cue captain obvious


150 posted on 12/22/2020 7:01:37 PM PST by Kevmo (I feel like I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: TexasGator

Not from where I’m sitting and from any lurker who looks in on this thread.


151 posted on 12/22/2020 7:03:03 PM PST by Kevmo (I feel like I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: TexasGator

Do you think electrical wiring is the only use we have for copper?

We don’t have enough copper in the world for all our needs in the world.


152 posted on 12/22/2020 7:05:13 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: Kevmo

“Tell that to the nuke engineers at google who filed patents. And guys like Yoshiaki Arata (who died recently but the point is still valid) who were instrumental in their country’s nuclear development programs. Arata had some of the highest civilian awards such as naming buildings after him. I doubt anyone ever named a building after you.”

I was referring to your post. I have no idea what Arata has to do with this.


153 posted on 12/22/2020 7:07:21 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Kevmo

“Why is it like pulling teeth to get you to post numbers rather than invective?”

LOL! I posted numbers before you asked! I gave you the link when yo ask. Please don’t lie.


154 posted on 12/22/2020 7:09:27 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Kevmo

“Not from where I’m sitting and from any lurker who looks in on this thread.”

You are misrepresenting my post.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alinsky+rules&ia=web


155 posted on 12/22/2020 7:11:27 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Jonty30

“Do you think electrical wiring is the only use we have for copper?”

No. I was just giving you a figure to show how much copper we have.

“We don’t have enough copper in the world for all our needs in the world.”

We don’t have enough oil in the world for all our needs in the world. Your logic demands we develop alternatives, such as EV’s to extend that supply.


156 posted on 12/22/2020 7:18:50 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

I have never said to not develop alternatives, but those alternatives have to be in their proper place.


157 posted on 12/22/2020 7:20:12 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: TexasGator

Which came first, the snark or the numbers? Simple question.


158 posted on 12/22/2020 7:21:40 PM PST by Kevmo (I feel like I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Kevmo

” And guys like Yoshiaki Arata”

LOL! Cold Fusion! Now I remember your handle!


159 posted on 12/22/2020 7:22:25 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Kevmo

“Which came first, the snark or the numbers? Simple question.”

Numbers #135
Snark Not yet posted. Maybe #140 but doesn’t fit the definition.

IS THIS YOUR WAY OF IGNORING MY NUMBERS POST?


160 posted on 12/22/2020 7:25:02 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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