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Can America Survive This Perfect Storm?
Townhall.com ^ | December 13, 2020 | Michael Brown

Posted on 12/13/2020 4:19:37 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: mo
Mo, we cannot stay "united' because stupid people have misconception of secession. Secession IS the answer. Can we have negotiated secession? Can a mutual defense treaty be part of that? OF COARSE IT CAN.

When will Tories like you learn the status quo is dead.

21 posted on 12/13/2020 4:53:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Beagle8U
How do you divide up the states?

Wow how stupid are you? States are semi autonomous political entities right now, they just secede from the USA and from a new compact and new federal govt. Not hard. Takes about a week to do it.

22 posted on 12/13/2020 4:56:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

problem with secession is that “Chinese boots on the ground thingy” as previously mentioned.

Secession will provide that opportunity for the CCP-unless you’re willing to Nuke former states?


23 posted on 12/13/2020 5:00:23 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: mo
Wow, you are not listening. Lets use the US Navy for example. The US Navy would not cease to exist post secession. It would be smaller but another navy would from supported by a new nation of 200,000,000 free ( or freerer ) people ( formerly Texas and many other red states ).

In the 1940s a nation of 120 million had a Navy with 20 CVBG. A nation of 200,000,000 could support at least 7 or 8 CVBG's combined with the USNs reduced capability of 6 or 7 CVBGs ( down form 12 ).

Post secession the combined North American fleet would/could be even bigger and better then ever. The new free country would spend MORE on defense per capita and less on welfare.

The situation is DYNAMIC and not STATIC.

24 posted on 12/13/2020 5:11:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: mo

Who is talking about a war? We are talking about a secession. Different things.


25 posted on 12/13/2020 5:13:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

and that Navy works how when California, Oregon and Washington are part of the American CCP? They berthed in Alaska-with enemy around all sides?


26 posted on 12/13/2020 5:13:31 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: mo
and that Navy works how when California, Oregon and Washington are part of the American CCP?

Under that logic the Chinese are so strong they should have annexed all of S.A. and Mexico by now!! LOL Ask the day nurse to up your meds.

27 posted on 12/13/2020 5:15:45 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

How stupid are you?

You think most states will agree which side to choose?

Are you/they going to let cities secede?


28 posted on 12/13/2020 5:16:25 AM PST by Beagle8U ("Chris Wallace comes from the shallow end of the press pool.")
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You think most states will agree which side to choose?

What in the world does that mean? I am sick of try to explain simple basic political concepts to tories.

29 posted on 12/13/2020 5:25:32 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Paulie

The big thing that worries me about secession is that once it really begins (irrevocably), China or Russia will pounce militarily.

For example, let’s say China waits until everything is official and we have two countries on this continent. Would we come to the defense of Boston if 5 Chinese subs popped up and leveled the city?

Would the bi-costal count we just broke away from help us if the same thing happened to Houston?
I’m all for freedom over tyranny, but I don’t want China or somebody rolling tanks down my street because our two new country couldn’t get along.
(Am I making sense?)


30 posted on 12/13/2020 5:29:07 AM PST by TheRobb7 ("Patriots don't negotiate the terms of their enslavement"--JimRob)
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To: Kaslin

Kamala, excuse us, Kamala, excuse us, we’re speaking. (Are you listening?)


31 posted on 12/13/2020 5:38:52 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: central_va

The New Republic of American Free States would have a Gideon armed forces. 1 of our fierce and determined patriots could whip 10 from the PC Army of the Corrupt Democracy of RAT States, just like a small Israeli army beat 20X the number of invading Arab countries several times.


32 posted on 12/13/2020 5:39:01 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: Kaslin

“And all the while, the death count continues to soar.”

The author lost me there. The death rate pre-covid and post-covid is about the same across all age groups per Johns Hopkins.


33 posted on 12/13/2020 5:42:50 AM PST by CheneyClone
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To: Kaslin

The more I read Michael Brown, the less I want to. The Democrat machines in all of the usual places went into overdrive in the election. Apparent voting system based fraud was applied in Republican areas. Election law was judicially altered to enable easier fraud.

He cites thw wiflu, but neglects to identify the unbalanced nature of which political party applied the most draconian measures, guaranteed to eviscerate the economy to harm their political rival.

He fails to recognize the one-sided source of the insurrection across America’s cities.

Instead he says we should all “fall on our faces before God”, rather than putting on God’s armor and joining the righteous battle. To a godless and God hating enemy who rejected God 3 times at their convention, unilaterally falling on one’s face before God is merely easy access to stomp on or cut your opponent’s neck.


34 posted on 12/13/2020 6:00:34 AM PST by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: Kaslin

There is another option..

Convention of the states.

the constitution is dead. We’ve got nothing to lose.

I haven’t heard much about the convention lately.


35 posted on 12/13/2020 6:07:12 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: central_va

...and months to form new constitutions and guaranteeing bills of rights with a bunch of “go back to Egypt” style traitors trying to sabotage the thing from the get go!. My choice would be freedoms of association being guaranteed but all secret masonic groups and elitist illuminati stuff be banned under threat of executions! I’m tired of dealing with the termites, the little foxes that spoil the grapevines.


36 posted on 12/13/2020 6:29:32 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: TheRobb7

You are assuming the democrat party would stop the CCP. They installed their very own president (God forbid) and every democrat is either owned by China or shares the same commie ideology. Add to that the idiot voters who would say what a great thing it is because they would bring free healthcare for all and electric cars to save the planet.


37 posted on 12/13/2020 6:36:10 AM PST by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: central_va

Oh but by my previous posting ,don’t think I’m not agreeing with you...just stating the obvious teething issues a government of a new nation would have to face.


38 posted on 12/13/2020 6:36:46 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: central_va

Yeah. No more social experiments, spending defense dollars on tranny conversions, etc.


39 posted on 12/13/2020 7:07:25 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: sauropod

Thank you.

And it is really important to grasp that with a stolen or rigged election...

WE are the majority party in the nation.



40 posted on 12/13/2020 7:14:08 AM PST by EBH (God Save the Republic. God is in Control. God knows what He is doing. )
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