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Trump Has Secret Emergency Powers?
Reason ^ | 04 10 2020 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 12/12/2020 6:43:38 PM PST by yesthatjallen

President Donald Trump has an expansive view of how much unchecked power the U.S. chief executive can wield. For example, in a speech back in July 2019, he asserted, "I have an Article II, where I have to the right to do whatever I want as president." The Article II to which Trump was referring is the section of the U.S. constitution that outlines the powers given to the president. Among other things, that article requires that the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed." An ordinary language reading of that section does not prima facie suggest that it gives a president the right to whatever he or she wants to do.

More recently, during a March 12 White House press availability, Trump was asked if he was going to declare a national emergency in response to the coronavirus pandemic. "We have very strong emergency powers under the Stafford Act," responded the president. He then added, "I have the right to do a lot of things that people don't even know about."

In a chilling op-ed in The New York Times, Brennan Center legal scholars Elizabeth Goitein and Andrew Boyle suggest that Trump's statement could be referring to the secret powers that previous presidents have granted themselves in "presidential emergency action documents." As Goitein and Boyle explain:

"These documents consist of draft proclamations, executive orders and proposals for legislation that can be quickly deployed to assert broad presidential authority in a range of worst-case scenarios….These include suspension of habeas corpus by the president (not by Congress, as assigned in the Constitution), detention of United States citizens who are suspected of being "subversives," warrantless searches and seizures and the imposition of martial law."

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KEYWORDS: april2020; brennencenter; emergencypowers; oldnews; trump; yes
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This piece is from April during the Covid panic.

The Brennan Center and the New York Times were trying to scare the public Trump was about to bypass the Constitution and go full martial law.

If all else fails, could this be an option?

Presidential Emergency Action Documents

1 posted on 12/12/2020 6:43:38 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
The Brennan Center and the New York Times were trying to scare the public Trump was about to bypass the Constitution and go full martial law.

As various governors, such as Cuomo and Whitaker have done with emergency "COVID" measures.

2 posted on 12/12/2020 6:47:10 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: yesthatjallen
For years the democrats have been angling to give the president as much power as possible. Of course they were expecting a Hillary to come along and take advantage of presidential power.

I think it is hillarious that they all set the presidency up for Hillary and Trump is the one with all that power.

Talk about a hoot and a half!

3 posted on 12/12/2020 6:47:11 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: yesthatjallen

He has the power, looks like he is exhausting every possibility showing every move to the American people and bringing us along this road to the point where we will all understand what needs to be done to save the republic


4 posted on 12/12/2020 6:49:41 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( Massive mistakes are made by arrogant fools; massive evils are committed by evil people.")
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To: marktwain

Exactly. Prince Andrew has dictatorial powers in Agni Yak and he is using them to the max..


5 posted on 12/12/2020 6:50:46 PM PST by Shady (It is the rule of law vs tyranny, plain and simple, and it is the fight of our lives...DEFCON 5!)
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bump


6 posted on 12/12/2020 6:52:24 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: yesthatjallen

If all else fails, (in the election) could this be an option?

No.
It’s just stupidity,


7 posted on 12/12/2020 6:57:18 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: yesthatjallen

Trump has secret powers, eh?

Like making liberal heads explode from a distance.


8 posted on 12/12/2020 6:58:42 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ronnie raygun

“He has the power, looks like he is exhausting every possibility showing every move to the American people and bringing us along this road to the point where we will all understand what needs to be done to save the republic.”

Exactly.... for those that have discernment. Trump’s been showing US how to get ‘er done for four years and in the process has exposed the massive corruption within the system.

MAGA =======> KAG


9 posted on 12/12/2020 7:01:54 PM PST by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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>>> If all else fails, could this be an option?

I don’t think for a second that Trump is reacting to the news on a daily basis.

I think he’s been preparing for this since he got into office.

And yes... the level of infiltration into our government by foreign agents pretty much makes it his ONLY option...

And he’s been using it all along.


10 posted on 12/12/2020 7:04:00 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: yesthatjallen
Just imagine for a minute that the NSA has a recording from Nov 4 2020. A conference call with Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Kamela Harris and Xi in China. They discuss how the election has been stolen from Trump. They discuss that they did it "just like in 2008 and 2012". They explain they are still manufacturing additional votes and how it "won't be like 2016. We learned our lesson. We're going big this time." And they further explain that Joe Biden isn't on the call because "He didn't know his own name when he woke up this morning."

Further imagine that Harris, Obama, and Clinton promised Xi that they would do his bidding and that "America will be utterly destroyed in the next two years. We promise."

And imagine that President Trump revealed this NSA recording to the American public.

I don't think it would matter.
I don't think people would believe it.
The media (and the GOP) would laugh it off.

11 posted on 12/12/2020 7:09:20 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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2018 he signed a law saying he could take charge if foreign elements were interfering with crucial infrastructure.


12 posted on 12/12/2020 7:10:37 PM PST by struggle
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>I don’t think people would believe it.

It doesn’t take that. All it takes is for Biden and them to be arrested for it.


13 posted on 12/12/2020 7:11:53 PM PST by struggle
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To: struggle

Oh? Think the FBI would do that?


14 posted on 12/12/2020 7:16:01 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: yesthatjallen

I read that article 2 passage he quotes rather more like a warning to the president not to overstep or read more into the laws and powers he’s got, not to overstep authority of the laws he’s expected to enforce/uphold.

The entire constitution is a limiting document on government.


15 posted on 12/12/2020 7:16:17 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Slyfox

Absolutely Hillaryous Power corrupts…… absolutely!


16 posted on 12/12/2020 7:32:21 PM PST by mikrofon (Prayers for DJ Trump BUMP)
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To: yesthatjallen
Anything is possible. If the right is there the right is there. However, America would never be the same again. It would require a steady hand and mind to ensure the maintenance of the (very) thin line between emergency powers and dictatorial edicts; and even then half the country would still see it as an American version of what President Magafuli of Tanzania was doing two months ago and President Museveni of Uganda was doing last month; and even then (unless President Trump totally drains the swamp) it would give perfect precedence for a future Democrat administration to also claim emergency powers.

There’s a reason in modern war countries with low-yield tactical nuclear weapons don’t utilize them even when they would be perfect in certain limited situations - the understanding that it lowers the threshold and makes it easier for use of such weapons by others in the future. The same is true for emergency powers that basically suspend the rule of law for a ‘good reason’ and give their wielder absolute dictatorial authority for a while until the ‘good reason’ is resolved. It is amazingly open to abuse, and it is extremely precedent setting

America would never be the same again. Whether successful or not, the country would be forever changed. Half the country would see the actions as absolutely necessary in the face of usurpation by a massive domestic cabal seeking to destroy the country; and ironically the other half would see the actions also as usurpation but in their view being done by a dictatorial leader seeking to hold onto power by whatever way and in the process destroying the country! Whether people like it or not, the country is split in half and however things turn out there will be half of the country 100% believing the election was stolen. The only question is if it will be the Republicans or the Democrats, and that made me wonder if this was some foreign-led stratagem to destroy a country. Where no matter what side ‘won’ the country would lose all the same?

It is actually quite sad, and makes me think that the forces that orchestrated and perpetrated what is happening really don’t want the best for America and why I believe that as much as there are domestic actors the whole thing stinks of foreign influence as well. The sort of thing China and Russia would do, and makes me think of the subversive ‘color revolutions’ done in other countries where real schism is introduced among the population.

As the Bible said, a house divided cannot stand. The Dems are useful idiots, but I strongly believe the real influencers are foreign. And that they are winning, because however it ends up America will never be the same again.

Sad, but then again I suspect it was already irrevocably changed. Maybe. God help us.

17 posted on 12/12/2020 7:36:00 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: yesthatjallen

I could go for mass detentions, taking control of media broadcast and continuous broadcast of the facts as they are uncovered kind of a forced awakening for the uninformed, seizure of everything vote related in all 50 states including software and machines, and absolutely no plea deals until every rat has rolled over.
Rats squeals and stories could be broadcast and voted on and ranked for severity before penalties were administered. In my world most would be hanged from a tall gallows with a short rope.


18 posted on 12/12/2020 7:40:00 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: spetznaz

Kammy The Commie would use these powers in a second. And will, if she gets there.

Mark my words.


19 posted on 12/12/2020 7:41:06 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (This is all a Soros funded communist insurrection! )
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To: yesthatjallen

The laws have not been faithfully executed. Yet Barr and Wray still have their furking jobs. Articles of the Constitution mean nothing in the age of mafiocracy.


20 posted on 12/12/2020 7:41:29 PM PST by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor: Dominion delenda est.)
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