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AP EXPLAINER: Dismissed election case pushed debunked claims
The Associated Press ^ | December 12, 2020 | By NOMAAN MERCHANT and ALANNA DURKIN RICHER

Posted on 12/12/2020 5:46:53 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The elections lawsuit pushed by President Donald Trump and dismissed by the U.S. Supreme Court was filled with claims that failed to withstand basic scrutiny.

THE LAWSUIT CLAIMS: Texas has a right “to demand that all other States abide by the constitutionally set rules in appointing presidential electors to the electoral college.” It says other states are harmed when one state “violates federal law to affect the outcome of a presidential election.”

THE FACTS: The Supreme Court dismissed the case on this issue. It said in a brief order that Texas “has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections.”

THE LAWSUIT CLAIMS: The four states that Texas is suing “usurped their legislatures’ authority and unconstitutionally revised their state’s election statutes.”

THE FACTS: Trump and his allies have lost many cases making the argument that only state legislatures could modify election practices during the coronavirus pandemic. This lawsuit rehashes arguments already rejected by courts siding with officials who acted under their respective state laws.

THE LAWSUIT CLAIMS: Given Trump’s lead in the four states “as of 3 a.m.” the morning after the election, Biden’s chances of winning all four was “less than one in a quadrillion.”

THE FACTS: What sounds like a statistically significant figure isn’t grounded in what experts before the election predicted: In-person votes counted more quickly would likely favor Trump and mail-in votes counted later would favor Biden.

THE LAWSUIT CLAIMS: There are “facts for which no independently verified reasonable explanation yet exists.”

THE FACTS: Each of the listed “facts” has an independently verified explanation.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2020; journalism; press; scotus
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1 posted on 12/12/2020 5:46:53 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why didn’t they “fact check” the Russia Russia Russia hoax? Selective press for sure. I think in our next iteration we should insist on a free press.


2 posted on 12/12/2020 5:51:54 AM PST by Religion and Politics
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The case was dismissed for lack of standing, which means the merits of the allegations were not addressed. Standing is considered right after jurisdiction but before the merit of the allegations. It’s a threshold matter.


3 posted on 12/12/2020 5:53:11 AM PST by Spok (All free men are equal only in their freedom; everything else is up to them.dirt road.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

NOTHING Prevents Vice President Pence from not counting the electoral votes from these 4 States, and the way i see it they will have NO STANDING should they attempt to sue.


4 posted on 12/12/2020 6:00:46 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The article is pure gaslighting. Since the case was tossed for lack of standing, the merits of each of the arguments were not addressed. (Not positively, but, not negatively, either, as this gaslight article is claiming.)


5 posted on 12/12/2020 6:00:56 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

is there any BLACKROBE who Obeys the Constitution,
or cares for the Law???

apparently in King Sullivan’s evil world of 2020,
still directed from Epstein Island, Malta, Ukraine
and Germany, .... the answer is: NO.


6 posted on 12/12/2020 6:01:22 AM PST by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced" )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That headline screams “propaganda”


7 posted on 12/12/2020 6:01:36 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Religion and Politics

America’s Pravda


8 posted on 12/12/2020 6:07:18 AM PST by wetgundog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Now that they know the mathematical pattern of election
fraud, the easier it is to see in the data;

I’ve made an index for this proof.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3914280/posts?page=1502#1502

1:30 “Every single time votes came in, if that total got
above 2.1% roughly, what they did is they adjusted it down
by somewhere between 4 and 5 percent.”

1:45 “the third party votes were coming in at higher than 2%
so what they did is they knocked 645 votes off the third
party candidates which is roughly a 5% or 4.8% change” now I
don’t know what happened to those votes but I do know they
are no longer counted for the third party, and it like
they’re basically gone.”

3:15 “the vote total had gotten so fast, it went from 2.1 to
2.9% which is a huge jump, so what you’ll see is the cheating
algorithm essentially we hit 3% and it had a major
correction, brought it right back down to 2.1% again, and
what that did is they stole 13,500 votes from the third
party candidate and that dropped the percentage like they
stole 30%, and that almost a third of what was going to the
third party at that time, just gone.”

3:45 “their strategy here was to keep those votes,that go to
the third party at 2.1%”

4:00 “This happened multiple, multiple times throughout the
evening, until their is one big adjustment which is the
second part of their strategy”

4:30 this was their 2% strategy to keep Biden the candidate,
so what they did is the total number of votes from all
candidates lost is 194,846, that’s a huge number that was
gone at that time,

4:45 “but what they did here was they took roughly 6000
votes from the third party candidate, which is 13% at the
time, they stole 107, votes from Donald Trump at that time
which is approximately 12% of his total votes, but to keep
it looking fair they stole only 81,000 votes from Biden so
that’s only 7% of his total at the time”

5:14 “this is there major adjustment, when the votes are so
out of whack, and so obvious Biden was going to lose, they
just got rid of votes from the different candidates, but at
different ratios so that Biden would come out ahead.”

5:30 “So 81,000 vs 107,000, that almost a 30,000 vote
difference in terms of taken away from one candidate versus
the other, they absolutely stole this from Trump”

5:40 “the big losers are the third party candidates.”

6:04 “they adjusted it a total of 23 times.”

6:09 “but I can prove using these numbers that are publicly
available, that they kept the third party candidate at 2.1%
and would not let it get higher than that”

7:45 “Because there are votes taken from all three
candidates it creates an air of mystery, and so it can’t be
proven either way and this is the smokescreen that they’re
running in order to be easily detected.”

7:58 “the strategy that they went with is the third party
candidates votes were not allowed to get more that 2.1% and
votes were consistently stolen from the third party.”

8:07 “and I think what happened, probably, but I can’t say
for sure, gave those votes to Biden over the course of the evening.”


9 posted on 12/12/2020 6:08:56 AM PST by Son House
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17-ANON (Uniter)
@17_ANON_WWG1WGA
The election should now be null and void. New information has come out that Dominion is partly owned by Joe Biden's brother-in-law's brother.

Valerie Biden Owens (Joe Biden's sister) is married to John Owens. His brother, R. Kevin Owens is a part owner of Dominion.
12:50 AM · Dec 12, 2020

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1827586/000182758620000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml

https://www.nytimes.com/1975/10/12/archives/bridal-at-un-for-miss-biden.html

Valerie Biden, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph R. Biden of Wilmington, Del., was married yesterday morning to John T. Owens, son of Mr. and Mrs. John A. Owens of Garden City and Westhampton Beach, L. I.

The ceremony was performed by the Rev. Robert Keck, a Roman Catholic priest, in the chapel at the Church Center of the United Nations. After the ceremony the wedding party boarded the tugboat, Jane McAllister, for a cruise around Manhattan. A reception was held at the Carlyle.

Maureen M. Greco was matron of honor and R. Kevin Owens, the bridegroom's brother, was best man.


10 posted on 12/12/2020 6:09:38 AM PST by maggief
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pravda has declared the election to be the most secure election in the history of this country.


11 posted on 12/12/2020 6:11:13 AM PST by robel
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This sort of crap from AP about not questioning the election reminds me of the Emerson quote...

“The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.”


12 posted on 12/12/2020 6:11:35 AM PST by Flick Lives (#resist)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

liar


13 posted on 12/12/2020 6:13:46 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Debunked.

Baseless.

False.

Remember, the news media was in on it.


14 posted on 12/12/2020 6:15:45 AM PST by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: Son House

7:45 “Because there are votes taken from all three
candidates it creates an air of mystery, and so it can’t be
proven either way and this is the smokescreen that they’re
running in order to be not so easily detected.”


15 posted on 12/12/2020 6:17:07 AM PST by Son House
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To: maggief

so Dominion Voting systems are owned/run/controlled by
Beijing Biden’s BROTHER IN LAW.


16 posted on 12/12/2020 6:18:53 AM PST by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced" )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Would it be acceptable for every state that voted for Biden to challenge the results in every state that voted for Trump? How many cases would this result in? How long would it take to adjudicate such cases? Does the constitution give each state the right, within certain parameters, to conduct their elections as they see fit?


17 posted on 12/12/2020 6:30:17 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Had a chance to sleep on this.

Two positive results.

1) This ruling sweeps away all progressive amicus briefs filed in opposition to future law suits
2) SOCTUS manufactures “cover” and wait for the right case to finally rule in favor of a legal vote.


18 posted on 12/12/2020 7:06:23 AM PST by Steven Tyler (President Elect Steven Tyler)
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To: maggief

Where do you see that R. Kevin Owens is part-owner of Dominion?


19 posted on 12/12/2020 7:08:44 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That is not why the Court refused the case. It was based on the 11th Amendment. In 1973, if that Court had paid attention to the 10th and 11th Amendments, we would not have legalized baby-killing.


20 posted on 12/12/2020 7:44:45 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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