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Texas Bill Would Require Homeowners To ‘Retreat’ Before Using Deadly Force
The Police Tribune ^ | December 10, 2020 | Holly Matkin

Posted on 12/11/2020 10:16:12 AM PST by george76

Austin, TX – Texas lawmakers are considering a bill that would require homeowners to “retreat” before using deadly force in certain situations.

Under Texas’ “castle doctrine,” citizens have the right to use deadly force to defend their “land or tangible, movable property,” KPRC reported.

House Bill 196, filed by Rep. Terry Meza (D-Irving) earlier this month, would require homeowners to be “unable to safely retreat” before they could legally use deadly force against a perpetrator.

Property owners would also no longer be able to use deadly force to stop aggravated robbery or robbery crimes under the bill, according to KPRC.

“A person who is in the person’s own habitation, who has not provoked the person against whom the deadly force is used, and who is not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force is used is not required to retreat before using deadly force,” according to the proposed legislation.

Critics have accused Meza of trying to repeal the state’s “castle doctrine” by forcing people to surrender their property and flee before resorting deadly force.

But Meza said she is just trying to stop people from being so quick to shoot criminals on their property.

“My bill HB 196 and my position on the Texas Castle Doctrine has been misrepresented in the news as of late,” she lamented in a series of tweets on Nov. 19. “It does not repeal the Castle Doctrine, and it does not restrict homeowners from using firearms in self-defense as applicable to current Texas stand your ground laws.”

Meza said her bill “would require a homeowner to exhaust the potential of safely retreating” into their own home before they could legally use “deadly force in defense of themselves or their property.”

She explained she filed the bill because the current “castle doctrine…emboldens people to take justice into their own hands.”

“While theft is obviously wrong, we have laws to address that,” Meza reasoned. “I don’t believe that stealing someone’s lawn ornament should be an offense punishable by death.”

Texas Governor Greg Abbott said he has no intention of backing the bill.

“Let me be clear,” he tweeted on Wednesday. “The Castile Doctrine will not be reduced. We won’t force Texas homeowners to retreat. Especially with the crazy ‘defund police’ ideas, homeowners need to protect themselves now more than ever.”

“We will protect 2nd Amendment rights,” Abbott wrote.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; guncontrol; homeowners; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; texas
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To: mass55th

In Arizona, deadly force cannot be used to protect property, and they classify your pet dogs as property.


41 posted on 12/11/2020 11:03:41 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: TribalPrincess2U

yup- good answer- Can’t retreat when you’re cornered against a wall by an armed intruder-


42 posted on 12/11/2020 11:07:48 AM PST by Bob434
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To: george76
"While theft is obviously wrong, we have laws to address that,” Meza reasoned. “I don’t believe that stealing someone’s lawn ornament should be an offense punishable by death.”"

But stealing/subverting ones 2nd Amendments Right might merit it.

43 posted on 12/11/2020 11:12:16 AM PST by BipolarBob (You can always pay half the poor to kill the other half. - Boss Tweed, Gangs of New York)
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To: george76
Now if I saw her coming toward me I would definitely retreat!


44 posted on 12/11/2020 11:14:06 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: george76

Question: How does the homeowner know the person who has broken into their house is only going to rob them? Do they have to ask the criminals first? What if the robbers lie?


45 posted on 12/11/2020 11:17:00 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: budj

Well it would be better if one could shoot them before they get to your property but the paperwork involved is daunting.


46 posted on 12/11/2020 11:17:57 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: BipolarBob

I missed where there have been a whole bunch of “lawn gnome theft shootings.” Is this a problem in Texas? Does the current “Castle Doctrine” not take into account there shall be a reasonable fear that life is in danger?


47 posted on 12/11/2020 11:21:56 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: aquila48
LOL...You can be sure the Framers of our Constitution had absolutely no inkling that this would ever be possible in the nation they founded.
48 posted on 12/11/2020 11:24:25 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken )
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To: mass55th
In New York State, Criminal Procedure Law says if someone breaks into your house, and you have an “avenue of egress,” you must take it before using deadly force on the perp

I was taught differently, if you feel for your life, you're good to go to defend yourself in your home.

49 posted on 12/11/2020 11:28:52 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: aquila48
Hubba hubba! What a honey — a real she-man. You don't get many of those to the pound.

50 posted on 12/11/2020 11:35:37 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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Hey I’ve got an idea...how about making it illegal for a perp to break into and assault you in your home...oh never mind....


51 posted on 12/11/2020 11:36:01 AM PST by TnTnTn
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To: 1Old Pro

They also taught us that if someone assaulted us, that we should never hit them back, because that would leave us open to assault charges like the person who originally assaulted us. The person who taught us was the weapons training officer, who also worked part-time as a county sheriff.


52 posted on 12/11/2020 11:40:36 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: aquila48
Why are Democrat women so damned ugly? Someone should post some eye bleach. Quickly.


53 posted on 12/11/2020 11:41:32 AM PST by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: george76

How about we not retreat from the communists who represent the criminals instead of We the People??!


54 posted on 12/11/2020 11:41:56 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: george76

Won’t pass


55 posted on 12/11/2020 11:44:57 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: aquila48

Looks like her Dentist retreated from his Orthodontics Class in College.


56 posted on 12/11/2020 11:46:49 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: george76
“But Meza said she is just trying to stop people from being so quick to shoot criminals on their property.“

now there is a level of stupidity, that can only be described as a family tree that resembles a yard stick.

57 posted on 12/11/2020 11:53:46 AM PST by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Just curious, were you in the Navy? I was and am ROTFLMAO...


58 posted on 12/11/2020 11:56:47 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken )
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To: mass55th
Seems to me that response would depend on the intensity and duration of the assault.
59 posted on 12/11/2020 12:06:19 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken )
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To: george76

This is actually a Bill to take everything from you, just like they did in Nazi Germany. If this bill passed how long before everything working people are completely displaced.
Owner ship of property is taught in the Bible and is a good Christian principal.


60 posted on 12/11/2020 12:06:30 PM PST by Cottonpatch
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