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Trump Supporters Right to Doubt Election ^ | December 11, 2020 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 12/11/2020 3:50:33 AM PST by Kaslin

Some accuse Trump supporters of manufacturing allegations of voter fraud out of whole cloth and resisting the presidential election results in response to their supposed cult leader's wishes. As usual, President Donald Trump is the villain and his supporters are complicit.

But again, the Trump-hating critics are wrong. Nationwide GOP distrust and outrage over the election is a grassroots phenomenon. Trump supporters did not take their cue from Trump. They witnessed the numerous anomalies on election night and beyond and recognized mischief when they saw it.

Am I saying the election was stolen? Well, I firmly believe that massive cheating occurred, especially in the so-called swing states. I can't be sure whether there was enough to change the outcome of the election, though I strongly suspect it.

Millions of Americans don't just strongly suspect it; they are sure of it. You should see my emails -- not from fringers but sober, reasonable people. They are not, as some Trump haters have charged, trying to steal the election themselves by throwing out bogus claims of election fraud.

That doesn't even make sense. It would be pointless for them to knowingly allege unprovable election fraud with any expectation of reversing the election in court. Conservative, originalist judges wouldn't do that without compelling evidence, and even then, they may not because of the monumental gravity of such an action. Dishonest advocates might falsely allege voter fraud for partisan reasons, such as to delegitimize President-elect Joe Biden, but not to steal back the election.

A large percentage of Republicans, and a surprising percentage of Democrats, genuinely believe Democrats stole the election. You don't have to take my word for it, but if you have any interest in understanding the mindset of Trump supporters, you would be wise to realize they believe they were robbed.

Let me give you some of the many reasons. We all see things through our own lens and filter them through our respective worldviews and presuppositions. But consider what Trump supporters have observed over the past four years and on election night.

-- Democrats (and the media) orchestrated and pursued a phony case of Trump-Russia collusion. They've investigated and harassed him from the beginning and fraudulently impeached him.

-- Many leftists believe Trump is Hitler -- their words, not mine -- and, for that reason alone, would cheat to beat him.

-- The legacy media's reporting on Trump has been almost 100% negative, and it has willfully covered up Democratic corruption, including that of Hunter Biden.

-- Democrats ran for president a man who is clearly in cognitive decline, who didn't campaign and whom the media insulated from scrutiny. They deceptively presented Joe Biden as moderate and as nothing like the extreme leftists who control his party but couldn't win a national election if honest about their agenda. Democrats knew Biden would never be the real president and would only be a stand-in for his leftist puppet masters until he could be replaced by Kamala Harris, America's most liberal senator. Biden unwittingly confirmed this sinister Manchurian scheme recently. Prefacing his remarks with "All kidding aside," he said that he told "Barack" that while he and Harris agree on most everything, if they later disagree on a matter of moral principal, he will "develop some disease" and resign. This was a chilling admission from a failing loose cannon who, if inaugurated, will have access to the nuclear launch codes -- unless his handlers wisely withhold them.

-- Social media giants Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Google clearly censored conservatives and overtly interfered with the election. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg contributed $350 million -- that's a third of $1 billion -- to get out the Democratic vote.

-- Mainstream liberal polling outfits showed Biden with absurd leads over Trump.

-- The leftist-dominated national Democratic Party subscribes to an end-justifies-the-means philosophy, meaning it schemes and cheats to advance its agenda. It has shown this with its fealty to liberal judicial activism; its plan to pack the Supreme Court and add territories as states to gain more Democratic electoral votes; and its crusade to diminish election integrity through opposing voter identification measures, grossly expanding unverifiable mail-in voting under the cover of COVID-19 and falsely accusing Republicans of suppressing the black vote.

-- Trump's explosive popularity is undeniable, as shown by his mega-rallies, which contrasts with Democrats' utter indifference toward Biden. Trump expanded the GOP base, especially with blacks and Hispanics. Yes, many people hate Trump, but not enough to get millions of unengaged people who never voted before -- millions more than voted for former President Barack Obama -- to vote for Biden.

-- On election night, Trump was way ahead. Vote counting was stopped in the middle of the night in certain pivotal states, and Biden surged way ahead by morning. Kraken aside, this is suspicious on its face and even more so considering the reported ballot drops in select cities in those states. Statisticians have questioned the statistical unlikelihood of this dramatic vote reversal, even accounting for more mail-in ballots among Democrats. I frankly don't know what to make of this theory, but it certainly catches one's eye.

-- Hundreds of affidavits throughout the country allege vast voter fraud. It's impossible to know for sure what happened, but reasonable Trump supporters -- and many Democrats -- view these events most skeptically.

-- Republicans performed extraordinarily well in congressional races, yet Trump fell behind them in certain swing states. Scoffers say this is due to Trump's off-putting manner, which we're told particularly offends suburban women. But these same people say Trump ruined the GOP. OK, so how did his ruined party outperform him? We had the equivalent of one of the greatest coattail effects in the modern era, and yet we are to believe that the owner of that coat didn't benefit from his own coat? Why would those who hated him reward his party -- a party that has been extremely loyal to him? Truth be told, many who hate Trump are contemptuous of his supporters.

I can't possibly know how much the Democratic Party cheated in this election, but I have given you ample reasons to understand why millions are highly suspicious and many among them are further convinced the cheating changed the outcome of the election.

If President Trump's challenges fail in court, it won't necessarily mean massive cheating didn't occur. It could mean any number of other things: that his lawyers couldn't quantitatively prove sufficient cheating after the fact, that no viable legal remedy was available, that procedural hurdles (like laches) precluded consideration of the case on the merits or that the Supreme Court didn't want to inject itself into a political question.

But be assured that people are rightly concerned and brushing them off as partisan crazies will do nothing to mollify them, especially when Democrats have telegraphed their intention of rigging the system to make future GOP victories increasingly difficult. What a colossal mess!

Please pray for the nation.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020preselection; trumpsupporter; voterfraud

1 posted on 12/11/2020 3:50:33 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
One thing Limbaugh gets wrong here. It wasn't that we “ witnessed the numerous anomalies on election night and beyond and recognized mischief when they saw it”, we've known they've been cheating for a long time. We called it at the start of the “ballot finding” practice and it wasn't that hard considering they always find ballots for the left.
2 posted on 12/11/2020 4:01:10 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Kaslin
People are splitting up in so many different ways. One of them is that the left and the right have their own media. They have little overlap. Conservatives subscribe to their media. The left subscribe to their media.

The left has had monopoly of media for a long time. It was always theirs, but the right starts to have its own media even though it is quite small compared with the left-wing media for now. The split will occur in every aspect of society.

3 posted on 12/11/2020 4:03:22 AM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: Kaslin

Massive vote fraud is a nation nullifying its own Constitution.

If the courts refuse to step in and stop that, then they can forget about rule of law—there is no reason for the courts to exist at that point.

Arguing legal procedure is like debating steering wheel engineering on the Titanic.

4 posted on 12/11/2020 4:20:16 AM PST by cgbg ( Remember 1876--we _can_ do this!--Biden--Office of the Prisoner-Elect)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not just Trump supporters. All Americans got screwed

5 posted on 12/11/2020 4:22:51 AM PST by albie
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To: Kaslin

This fraud has been decades in the making. We have been told we MUST go over to computerized vote counting and paper ballots were not able to keep up. Pure BS.

6 posted on 12/11/2020 4:23:42 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Kaslin

Well, I firmly believe that massive cheating occurred, especially in the so-called swing states. I can’t be sure whether there was enough to change the outcome of the election, though I strongly suspect it.

Then just say YES.

Quit with the dissembling mumbles already...they don’t make you seem reasonable, they water down your points.

7 posted on 12/11/2020 4:29:44 AM PST by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: Kaslin
Limbaugh focuses on Trump, and risks falling into that same rabbit hole that facilitates the Left and Deep State to dismiss the concerns.
This isn't about Trump anymore, albeit he is the nominee.
As soon as the light shown on Dominion, suddenly they move offices and there is a lot of rushing to cover tracks.
This is about the people deciding who represents them, rather than some small group picking who "rules". The cheating is the fig leaf.
Think about something deeper-why is Harris, who was one of the first to drop out of the primaries because of little to no support, but favored by Obama and company, put into the Vice Presidential slot? And now, once they think the con has succeeded, are suddenly turning to the corruption surrounding Biden?
This is an underhanded way to deny the will of the people, and if the fraud is let to stand, we will be at war.
8 posted on 12/11/2020 4:37:38 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Kaslin

Dawn’s early light.

Controversy. I liked it. Great song, great rendition. Thanks, Jose. love.

Great memories in Motown.

9 posted on 12/11/2020 4:39:28 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Adder


10 posted on 12/11/2020 4:59:08 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: Kaslin


11 posted on 12/11/2020 5:15:47 AM PST by sauropod (Let them eat kale. I will not comply. Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Cheating started the moment electronic voting was suggested and they dropped the voter ID requirement

12 posted on 12/11/2020 5:27:29 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: holdonnow

But wait a minute. holdonnow. I’m talkin’ ‘bout the son.

The son’s rays are rayciss. Burn it down. Get the son.

13 posted on 12/11/2020 5:41:34 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew; Kaslin
What you say gets close to the root of the problem we face as a nation and obliquely addresses it.

It is a fundamental cleavage point between Conservatives and Leftists just as surely as the cleavage point on a diamond can separate it cleanly into two pieces.

That cleavage point, upon which we as Conservatives may be separated most cleanly from Leftists is: Truth.

Conservatives believe in Objective Truth.

Conservatives believe that there are certain things that are true no matter who you are, where you are, or what era you live in. It has less to do with stances on abortion or the Second Amendment, and more to do with the fact that we hold that certain rights are "Natural Rights", given to us by God, and cannot morally or rightfully be taken from us by any person or government. These are our "inalienable rights" as referenced in The Declaration of Independence.

Leftists believe in Subjective Truth.

Leftists believe that Truth is relative. They believe that that truth is defined by people or government, is plastic, pliable, and changeable to suit the political needs of a person or a party. They do not believe in God, so they do not believe we have rights given to us by God. They believe that rights are granted by the State and by Society, and those rights may be changed to suit the current needs, weakened, or entirely suppressed or removed by the State if it deems it necessary.

This is a basic and fundamental difference, and is why we as a nation are in such peril. When two different groups see Truth in such a principally different way, it means that we will not be able to agree on anything but the most insignificant things.

Using this election and the past four years as an example, our Truth as Conservatives, arrived at by rationality and powers of observation, is that President Trump is a man who can get things done (moving the Embassy to Jerusalem, brokering Middle East peace accords, building a wall, restoring an economy, etc.) and that this election result showing Biden as more popular overall (and the winner as well) is fraudulent.

Our Truth shows us that the mathematical probability of Trump losing in a given state after being ahead by a certain amount when a certain percentage of the returns had been tallied for that one state is so low as to be impossible. Then to see voting had been stopped at a given time in that state for questionable reasons, and at that same time, huge batches of votes (100K votes for Biden vs 5K votes for Trump) were tallied in MULTIPLE areas, makes the probability of a non-corrupt Biden win even smaller.

And our objective truth also tells us that while Biden winning in ONE key battleground state in that exact fashion is very unlikely, having Biden winning in a LARGE number of battleground states KNOWN in advance to be in contention in exactly that same fashion in FOUR of those key battleground states is impossible, calculated in the Texas lawsuit as "one in a quadrillion".

Conservatives see this as an "Objective Truth".

To Leftists, their Subjective Truth is that Trump is a tyrannical, Hitlerian fascist strongman dictator who breaks laws with impunity, had collaborated with Russia to get elected, and that the Leftists are morally justified in using any means possible to oust him from office, including breaking any laws or unfairly persecuting or jailing anyone who gets in their way. They justify widespread Election Fraud to that end as morally necessary.

They justified the surveillance of Candidate and President Trump and his associates on their Subjective Truth that he is evil and crazy and not to be allowed to take or remain in office.

They justified the political persecution and ruination of General Flynn on their Subjective Truth about his phone call to the Russian Ambassador, and George Papadopoulos on the basis of their Subjective Truth about his relationship to the Trump Campaign.

They justified the fraudulent impeachment of President Trump on their Subjective Truth about the nature of his phone call to the Ukrainian President.

The point is, they have their Subjective Truth (whatever they decide Truth is) and we have our Objective Truth. Those two things cannot always coexist. And when the question of the nature of an objective truth cannot be agreed upon because one side categorically rejects it, then Truth fails, there is no common ground to be occupied, and the two sides become implacable enemies.
14 posted on 12/11/2020 5:52:55 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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