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East Asia's Looming Demographic Crisis
Nippon.com ^ | 11/24/20 | Tsuchiya Hideo

Posted on 12/09/2020 6:20:58 PM PST by Pining_4_TX

Some experts argue that the success of China and its neighbors in slowing the spread of the virus without resorting to costly shutdowns gives these countries a leg up in getting their economies back on track once the crisis subsides. Some even go as far as to predict that this will propel East Asia to dominate the post-COVID economy. However, such rosy predictions of a dawning of a new “East Asian era” may be premature in light of the ticking demographic timebomb that looms over the region.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asia; birthrate; decline; demographics
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Want to maintain power and influence? Have more babies.
1 posted on 12/09/2020 6:20:58 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Once a society enters a death spiral, it is usually unstoppable. Russian and China are dead men standing.


2 posted on 12/09/2020 6:25:28 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: Pining_4_TX

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3113131/chinas-economy-reports-consumer-deflation-first-time-11-years


3 posted on 12/09/2020 6:26:34 PM PST by ameribbean expat (Attention! All persons having the corona virus...please report to the nearest IRS office. Thank you.)
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To: Jonty30

So much for any of them ruling the world. Demographics is destiny.


4 posted on 12/09/2020 6:27:38 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to be able to do something to be hired to do it.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

East asia co-prosperity sphere.

Yikes.


5 posted on 12/09/2020 6:28:31 PM PST by whistleduck
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To: Jonty30

Impossible. Multiple Freepers have praised the inscrutable wisdom of Chinese leaders who think generations ahead, unlike Western powers who only consider the next financial quarter.


6 posted on 12/09/2020 6:30:31 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Jonty30

So are we.

We just allow a bunch of other countries to send their people here.


7 posted on 12/09/2020 6:39:23 PM PST by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian )
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To: Pining_4_TX

Populations fluctuate up and down. Europe lost half of its population during one of the plagues and it sprang back. Nothing to see here, move along.


8 posted on 12/09/2020 6:46:03 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Japan is still way far overly crowed. Reducing the Japanese population by 50% would make Japan a much more livable place to enjoy. China is still way far overly populous. The wages in China are equivalent to that of slave labor. If the population of China were to drop by 50% the factories would have to pay a decent wage in order to get intelligent workers. Farm economies need lots of kids to work the fields. Post industrial societies have got birth control and fewer children to have enjoyable life-styles. Latin-America needs to stop making babies. They are too currupt and illiterate to have economic strength. They send their unable to feed children to the USA.


9 posted on 12/09/2020 6:48:18 PM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Not sure why the fertility rate is dropping but apparently chicken and watermelon work really well. If our cities are any indication. Maybe throw some welfare at em as well and watch the fertility rate explode.


10 posted on 12/09/2020 6:48:32 PM PST by freedomlver
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To: Trumpet 1

There is no right size population. Just like there is not a correct climate. These are things that always change, are always in flux.


11 posted on 12/09/2020 6:51:04 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Some even go as far as to predict that this will propel East Asia to dominate the post-COVID economy.

Who are they going to sell their products to?

The U.S. ain't buying.

12 posted on 12/09/2020 6:56:13 PM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: Pining_4_TX

Then the Philippines must be a rising world power, because it is still making lots of babies.
No.


13 posted on 12/09/2020 9:57:46 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Jonty30

The US is in the same position as them; we’ve had a negative birth rate of Americans for decades. We’d be covered with ghost towns without open borders.


14 posted on 12/10/2020 3:03:04 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Some experts argue that the success of China and its neighbors in slowing the spread of the virus without resorting to costly shutdowns gives these countries a leg up in getting their economies back on track once the crisis subsides.

China didn't need to go into a full country-wide lockdown, they just eliminated any city block with their virus. Can't spread if all the carriers are dead!
15 posted on 12/10/2020 10:24:08 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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That is not completely true.

It was true before the information age when more people = more GDP

But now you have a lot of multipliers - look at the number of jobs that are automated.

I was in Tokyo a couple of years ago and they still have a lot of people in their 80s in top health and who work.

16 posted on 12/11/2020 3:45:23 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Jonty30

Russia

17 posted on 12/11/2020 3:46:12 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Pining_4_TX
That isn't completely true. Look at Portugal - it was always a small country but punched WAY above its weight from 1400 to about 1600.

Even now, you have Sinapore punching way about its population "weight", ditto Israel, the Netherlands, Sweden (10 million) etc.

18 posted on 12/11/2020 3:47:48 AM PST by Cronos
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To: central_va; Trumpet 1

Correct, there is no “right size”

Japan is crowded in the Tokyo-Yokohama megacity but the countryside is getting depopulated. They have a lot of automation, and their elders are healthy and WANT to work. As the population decreases, the salaries will rise a bit and real estate drop. I don’t see Japan’s GDP dropping. It’s relative GDP rank will fall - but that’s not because China or India is making more babies, but because they are making more goods and services.


19 posted on 12/11/2020 3:53:58 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Jess Kitting

Internal growth. Have you been to China lately? I was in Shanghai on a business visit 3 years ago and was amazed - it makes Tokyo, Singapore, HK, NY etc. look positively stone aged.

All transactions are via mobile Ali-pay, they have tons of new developments etc. and even the Chinese made stuff is getting more and more innovative. Their consumer market is booming


20 posted on 12/11/2020 3:55:40 AM PST by Cronos
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