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CNN's Kook Conspiracy Zone: Trump Trading Giuliani Pardon for Silence?
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/02/2020 9:09:04 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

If you've got an unproven, wacky conspiracy theory you would like to float, try CNN. Chances are, the "journalists" there will take it. So long as it targets a Republican, of course.

On today's New Day, CNN legal analyst Elie Honig floated the possibility that President Trump might be making a deal with Giuliani to grant him a pardon in return for Rudy's silence on Trump's ostensible misdeeds. Honig, of course, offered no evidence in support of his slimy suggestion.

Get the rest of the story and view the video here.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggers; cnn; pardons; presidenttrump; rudygiuliani

1 posted on 12/02/2020 9:09:04 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: miss marmelstein; patro; abb; SE Mom; HarleyLady27; connyankee; Behind Liberal Lines; KC_Lion; ...

I’d say this constitutes slander, but President Trump unlikely to bother to pursue it.

Ping to Liberal Media Criticism list.


2 posted on 12/02/2020 9:10:22 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Please ping or FReepmail me to be added to the Liberal Media Criticism ping list.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Same bunch that pushed the crazy “Russian Collusion” Conspiracy Theory.


3 posted on 12/02/2020 9:11:30 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Here’s the transcript. (Less clickbait this way)

CNN
New Day
12/2/20
6:20 am ET

JOHN BERMAN: Breaking overnight, CNN has learned that since the election, President Trump has discussed preemptive pardons for several people close to him, including his children, his son-in-law, and Rudy Giuliani.
. . .

LAURA JARRETT: But who’s asking for a pardon unless you believe you are facing some serious criminal exposure? The reporting from our White House team is that Giuliani is discussing this with the president, and asking for one. Now, we don’t know the full extent of what he’s facing in the Southern District of New York, but we know at least as of last summer, he was still under investigation for some of his business ties with the Ukraine. So why is he asking for this? He hasn’t been charged with anything. We haven’t seen any indictment on anything. So what’s going on?

BERMAN: Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!

ERICA HILL: It’s such a great point! And to that point, Elie. If the president decided he wanted to try this move with Rudy Giuliani, some sort of a preemptive pardon, could the president potentially be opening himself up to some issues on his end?

ELIE HONIG: Well, it depends what the reason is. And one of the things that we’ve learned just overnight is that there has been a DOJ investigation of some case, we don’t know the players, involving an exchange of money for a pardon.

Now, it doesn’t necessarily have to be money. If there’s an exchange of money for a pardon, that would be bribery, that would be a crime. I don’t believe that pardon would be effective.

But I believe by the same logic, if there was an exchange of, perhaps, I’ll pardon you, Rudy Giuliani, if you stay quiet, I think that’s obstruction of justice. If that’s the case also would be a crime, and the pardon would not be effective.

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HILL: When we look, Eliot [sic, Elie] at this new pardon investigation we learned about overnight, that the DOJ is looking into. The fact that this involves communications between lawyers and clients. That’s a big deal.

HONIG: Yeah, it shows that this is not just some rogue actor out there. This is some sort of coordinated effort. Look, we don’t know who the person is who was trying to get this pardon. The names are all redacted out of the court documents we saw. We also, I guess, in some sense, don’t know where that money was headed.

But if you break it down, there’s only one human being in this country who has the lawful power to grant a pardon. And so I think there’s a logical conclusion here. How much the president knew or didn’t know, I think, is to be determined. But the target, the subject of that effort to essentially buy a pardon, which is just a wild abuse of power and crime, the person who that was aimed for can only really be one person.

. . .

JARRETT: Now, I find it most interesting that the Justice Department decided to put out a statement last night that mentioned that no government official, no current government official, is a target or subject of the investigation, at least trying to bat down some of the guesswork there.


4 posted on 12/02/2020 9:17:43 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Speaking of Giuliani, last night I was watching the Golf Channel, and CNBC ran an ad promoting a series purporting to link Giuliani, Trump, Gotti, and a couple of others as the men who had “destroyed” New York City. Has anyone else heard about that series?


5 posted on 12/02/2020 9:24:13 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Larry Lucido

What crime has Giuliani allegedly committed? The crime of supporting Trump?


6 posted on 12/02/2020 9:25:36 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

yes
the others were Leona Helmsley and Ivan Boesky


7 posted on 12/02/2020 9:35:25 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

CNN legal analyst Elie Honig floats a rehashed Russia story ratings tanking we have to come up with something anything.


8 posted on 12/02/2020 9:38:11 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: PMAS

Thanks. I thought at the time that Giuliani was widely viewed as the man who had saved New York by cracking down on crime and making the streets safe again? But now he is one of the people who allegedly “destroyed” New York?


9 posted on 12/02/2020 9:39:08 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Project Veritas sure has CNN nervous and jerky!

Trying to change the narrative. Not going to work!


10 posted on 12/02/2020 9:39:38 AM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: Steve_Seattle

Rudy indicted Leona Helmsley and Ivan Boesky, and he took down the Gambino crime family headed up by John Gotti


11 posted on 12/02/2020 9:44:14 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Obama handed out pardons and commutations like candy at halloween. Where are the investigations?


12 posted on 12/02/2020 9:46:22 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Joe Biden: The best president money can buy.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Project Veritas has the goods on CNN, and will be releasing scathing bits nightly. Enjoy the show. CNN is toast!


13 posted on 12/02/2020 9:49:24 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: PMAS

the series is called Empires of New York on CNBC


14 posted on 12/02/2020 9:54:32 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: PMAS

In other words, the CNBC series is a shoddy hit-piece.


15 posted on 12/02/2020 9:56:58 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
"Honig, of course, offered no evidence in support of his slimy suggestion."

Nor will other media outlets or the fact-checkers demand any evidence.
16 posted on 12/02/2020 9:58:24 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Not sure, I haven’t watched it yet - not sure how they can attack Rudy in the 80’s through 90’s or even Trump for that matter.


17 posted on 12/02/2020 10:54:26 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Isn’t this libelous?


18 posted on 12/02/2020 12:39:47 PM PST by sauropod (Let them eat kale. I will not comply. Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis.)
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To: sauropod

Absolutely libelous. But given the higher standard of proof for public figures, unlikely Pres. Trump or Giuliani will pursue.


19 posted on 12/02/2020 2:30:17 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Please ping or FReepmail me to be added to the Liberal Media Criticism ping list.)
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