Yielding to tyranny is a shameful way to die

American Thinker ^ | Robert Arvay

[Turbo Pig]

I’m so tired of hearing about the “ammo box” as if it was that easy.

You can be as tired as you want, and you can sit back and tell us how it's impossible to stand up to the US military. I never said it would be easy, I just said that the time was rapidly approaching where people may have to make a very hard and potentially very deadly choice. Everyone who calls themselves a 'Patriot" will have to make that decisions themselves. Many that talk a big game on line will be shown wanting in real life. Many that have kept quite on the public forum will step up and act with conviction and courage. Personally, I'd like to think I will make the right choice when the time comes. I won't truly know until I come to that bridge, though. If it happens, how it all ends is only know God knows.

I do know one thing for sure at this point. Those who say "it's too hard", "it can't be won, because X is too big" have already conceded defeat in the most important places, their own hearts and minds. Thank the Lord our Fore Fathers were made of sterner stuff.

[bitt]

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[Pajamajan]

"Leftists have boldly announced it. They will trash our past; indoctrinate our children; and invite millions of noncitizens, who have no regard for our values, to vote. They will wreck our economy with predictably disastrous regulations in the name of saving the planet. Our enemies, correctly sensing weakness, will go to war against our national interests. Finally, the system will be rigged so there will never be another honest election. Having seized power, the left will never relinquish it without bloodshed."

Compromised, corrupt, Chyynaah Biden, the treasonous Democrats and their accomplices in the media, can not get away with their coup.

If they do, the country is finished.

[matthew fuller]

Jon Voight is with us.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/28/jon-voight-says-us-in-great-danger-if-joe-biden-takes-office/

[matthew fuller]

I’m going to have to use that for a while.

[servantboy777]

What is needed is a well know leader, someone with credibility and stature in government to muster folks to stand against this in a way that makes a statement.

A farmer or rancher with a large patch of land to accommodate thousands of people. Organize a large rally. Have patriots with the know how, ability and means to setup logistical support such as food/drink, restroom facilities, medical, legal..that sort of thing.

Start a fund type page to collect donations for the event. Apply for any necessary permits if any are needed by county or state. Shouldn’t be needed if it is private land.

Send out the invite across the nation. You are invited to this rally of patriots (Name it what you will), and one of the requirements...You must bring a long rifle or sidearm. Send out safety requirements and have folks sign waivers if needed.

Point I’m getting at...a huge ARMED patriot rally. Have well know speakers. Invite the press. Make a statement...either you clean up the corruption or face the people.

Whatever the idea...or how it shapes up, people need to have this voice...an armed rally to send a message. We do not want violence...clean it up!!!

[linMcHlp]

IMHO, where we who love liberty, are headed, is a 3rd Continental Congress.

[Lazamataz]

I'm so tired of hearing about the “ammo box” as if it was that easy. And how do you propose to actually stand up this standing army? Simply set a date and staging point? And how do you propose to not have everyone instantly arrested the second they arrive by the legions of LEO who will obviously be waiting for them? And let’s say you actually do get 50k armed people to show up at a field somewhere. What then? Do you propose they walk 100 miles to some city and start street-to-street fighting to wipe out the “dindonuffins” and their families? Where will those people rest along this march? How do you propose to keep them fed? Better have a solid logistics plan for all those people. Oh, and don’t forget, your very first direct-fire engagement will be breaking out of that LEO cordon that will be all around you. And forget about hiding, because air assets and all that.

These are important questions and points.

I don't think armed revolutions are all that effective these days. I even addressed a member of a fire team I involve in locally, and asked the leader,"What now?" (after the big steal). He had no plan, he had no ideas. I realized at that moment, you can have the best firearms, the best ammo, the best personal armor, and with no will and no plan, they are all useless.

There is the option of going small-cell kinetic action, and targeting certain members of the government (or enablers thereout) or the media, but this will merely label our side as terrorists and turn public opinion further against us. It might still be a viable option, though, if played right.

The most successful revolutions I have seen in modern times are the so-called "Color Revolutions", and they involve primarily what we saw in 2020: Demonstrations, involvement of Student Unions, and (not so much in 2020) creative non-violent resistance.

We are a long way from being ready for a Color revolution. People need to taste communism and authoritarianism for a while before they will be ready to revolt. Any significant Color Revolution will likely occur long after you and I are dead....unless, of course, technology finds a way to prevent Color Revolutions.

[piasa]

How many big name donors do the Democrats have?

[piasa]

How many big name donors do the Democrats have?

It’d be a shame if they got misplaced in some tribal area of Pakistan.

[servantboy777]

Perhaps...thanx for that. More food for thought.

Our country is so divided now. My opinion is that allot of this is foreign actors fomenting societal upheaval to keep America off balance and facilitate her downfall. I dunno, but Soros type individuals are pouring lots of $$$ into anti-American causes.

Witnessing what we have for the last decade or two, not sure how this country can come together. How could we ever compromise with the likes of Schiff, Omar, Cortez, Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler?

These people are so far out in left field, it just seems useless to try to reason with them.

[Travis McGee]

Make it simpler.

Would you rather:

A. live on your knees, a slave, living a lie, with your masters spitting in your face, and calling it rain, and you, saying, “Thank you master, may I have another?

Or

B. die on your feet, a free man?

A or B.

[Windcatcher]

Putting my thinking cap on for a moment.

I’m no expert at asymmetric warfare but my gut says that the missing piece is a small drone that can precision-strike a GPS coordinate within say a 50-mile radius, and realistically you’d need to send maybe half a dozen of them to ensure complete destruction of a single target (say, a particular talking head by way of example).

There are a number of hurdles to something like this that I can think of.

1. Traceability. This is by far the #1 issue. Realistically, whoever made them would have to make literally everything from scratch to avoid traceable purchases. Assembly would have to be done basically in clean-room conditions and all components would have to be handled wearing gloves and face masks if not a complete “bunny suit”. Any jigs used for forming parts would have to be destroyed or hidden well off-site, and if any special alloys are used every single shaving would have to be disposed of to eliminate chemical traceability. Manufacturing in a location not linked to you isn’t a solution since you’d be leaving DNA there.

2. Disciplines that need to be mastered. There are a lot of these:

a. Software for autonomous flight

- Navigation
- Terrain avoidance (possibly combined with navigation if a flight path is computed in advance)
- Powerplant startup and control (especially if manufacturing a micro jet engine)
- Flight control (closed-loop actuation of control surfaces based on sensor data)
- Computation of flight path before uploading to the aircraft

b. Design

- 3D CAD modeling
- Airframe
- Powerplant (would have to be a 3D CAD model that a multi-axis CNC machine could fabricate), e.g. piston engine parts or jet turbines and stator blades. Designs could possibly be simplified for single-use operation.
- Jet engine: centrifugal or axial compression? Low-bypass or high-bypass? What will meet thrust and range requirements?
- Electronics package
- Payload arming and activation

c. Fabrication

- Machining and welding the airframe
- Machining and welding the powerplant (if not purely electrical)
- Balancing powerplant parts (especially important if fabricating a jet engine)
- Fabrication skills needed will vary with the material (e.g. aluminum for a piston engine, stainless steel and inconel 718 for a jet engine)

d. Flight engineering

- Deals with issues of flight, e.g. center of gravity, pitch/yaw/roll rates, etc.

e. Payload

- Chemical manufacturing
- Safety

f. ???

I remember when the press was in a tizzy about 3D-printed guns. Maybe someday something like the above will be possible to the average person, but today the number of disciplines one must master is staggering.

[iontheball]

My comment pertained to the fact that most people are followers. It isn’t a matter of a plan and certainly not at the individual level. Every successful revolution (or pushback to tyranny if you prefer) needs a leader to rally around and organize the effort. To not understand that is to fail before you begin.
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We are not at that point yet. Don’t worry there are battle hardened patriots that will rise to the occasion when the time arrives. It happens all the time in combat when the leader falls, someone always steps up to lead. Right now we are getting signals from patriot Gen’s Flynn and McInerney.

[CodeToad]

“A. live on your knees, a slave, living a lie, with your masters spitting in your face, and calling it rain, and you, saying, “Thank you master, may I have another?”

Many, even on FR, would prefer that. They hope to duck whatever nasty consequences having communists in charge will bring. They hope to “Get ‘em next time! You’ll see! We’ll win THAT election!”

[CodeToad]

“And how do you propose to not have everyone instantly arrested the second they arrive by the legions of LEO who will obviously be waiting for them?”

You obviously have no clue about how many cops there really are. “Legions”?? I live in Douglas county, Colorado. We have 365 deputies. That’s it. Not exactly “Legions”. Most counties, there are about 3700 of them in the US, have a few dozen deputies at most.

[CodeToad]

“but today the number of disciplines one must master is staggering.”

Not really. I can do every one of those engineering tasks, and so can many of my colleagues.

One thing I do know, being from the USAF where we did GPS/Navstar command and control, is that GPS would be turned off instantly (in three minutes or less) in case of war. Forget GPS. You won’t have it if things get hot.

[sport]

No, Americans have not forgotten that. Americans have not forgotten that. Traitors never embraced that. Communists never embraced that. Judas goats never embraced that.

[Windcatcher]

I agree about the GPS. Ideally you’d want a triply-redundant system that could read GPS, GLONASS, and also perform inertial navigation. There are modules that give that capability.

[CodeToad]

INS will be the way to go. Even the USAF is looking at turning off GPS and going with INS completely since the technology is incredibly as accurate and far more reliable.