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Admittedly, I don't understand the net-neutrality issue that well, but if it's being constantly pursued by leftists it's a really bad thing.

All hail the Crap-King's third term if Biden is sworn in.
1 posted on 12/01/2020 7:45:23 AM PST by farming pharmer
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To: farming pharmer

Net neutrality simply isn’t. Just as Antifascist is not and the anti-Christian Human Rights Commission is not for equal human rights

Look at Youtube, Facebook, and Twitter.

They don’t want ISPs throttling the bandwidth for their content but they sure as hell will downthrottle YOUR own content and your interaction with your followers.


2 posted on 12/01/2020 7:49:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: farming pharmer

>Admittedly, I don’t understand the net-neutrality issue that well, but if it’s being constantly pursued by leftists it’s a really bad thing.

Basically providers want to be able to charge large streamers like Netflix for clogging up bandwidth with massive streams of video data. Net Neutrality basically says that data should “be treated equally” and thus not charged extra even though video streamers are many times 60-80% of the provider’s bandwidth.


3 posted on 12/01/2020 7:51:28 AM PST by struggle
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To: farming pharmer
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman Ajit Pai said he plans to leave the commission on Jan. 20, 2021.

Typical way Republicans still have no clue about how to deal with government. Under the same circumstances, the RATS always have the outgoing whatever resign before so that the new RAT appointee remains entrenched. That's how we're stuck with them all over the place. I have no problem with Pai leaving, but at least go on January 1 so that the rest of us have a fighting chance because President Trump names his successor.

4 posted on 12/01/2020 7:57:28 AM PST by Dahoser (Not separation of church and state, but of media and state.)
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To: farming pharmer

Biden is still not President Elect.


5 posted on 12/01/2020 7:57:58 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: farming pharmer

Just go back to some old posts. The doctrine had strong support on FR. Some Freepers were worried that they may not be able to stream unlimited amounts of movies while some others wanted the fed to force social media to carry all content. The was also great confusion as to what was to be “neutral”. Many thought this was simply a reg that applied to the physical infrastructure and IP providers. They missed the point that this was about regulating speech.

They entirely misunderstood the issue. One only needs to understand the Fairness Doctrine to get an idea of Net Neutrality will be applied.


6 posted on 12/01/2020 7:59:19 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: farming pharmer

As I understand it net neutrality gives government (and their favored corporate buddies) the ability to ration bandwidth as they see fit.

We all know how that works when government is handing out fairness.


7 posted on 12/01/2020 8:00:19 AM PST by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: farming pharmer
Admittedly, I don't understand the net-neutrality issue that well

Net neutrality requires internet providers to treat all internet traffic with the same priority. Without net neutrality providers could setup "fast lanes" where some sites load better and faster than others and charge companies for access to those fast lanes. As a practical result this would allow large established companies to have a competitive edge over new, smaller, startup type companies - potentially stifling innovation.

Internet companies don't like net-neutrality because they'd like to make money off of "fast lanes". Large corporations don't like net-neutrality because they would like the advantage a faster site/connection would give them over newer rivals. New companies like net-neutrality because it's a level playing field and they can compete fairly with established corporations based on better product or idea.

For us as consumers? Getting rid of net-neutrality benefits existing power structures - particularly media companies. MSNBC, CNN, Fox News would be able to afford the "fast lane" and stream fast while OANN or Newsmax would be slower and choppier. Netflix and Hulu would be fast while the next new thing would have trouble getting off the ground. If you're happy with the existing media environment, then getting rid of net-neutrality is probably okay. If you're not happy with the existing media environment then net-neutrality offers a greater chance at innovation and change (particularly from non-mainstream places).
9 posted on 12/01/2020 8:03:59 AM PST by Boise3981
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To: farming pharmer
The fact that rural areas may not have 25mps Internet access hardly seems to me to be a gov't issue. I understand the FCC's role in regulating the Internet in general, but making differential pricing based on geographical area establishes a dangerous precedent.

Rural areas can have such access (e.g., satellite), it simply costs them more. If they felt it was worth it, they'd buy it. Arguing "but the poor children won't be able to do their homework" doesn't cut it either, for the same reason. Indeed, the proportion of children living in rural areas continues to decline, so a blanket "fix" would reach a declining number of people it's suppose to help.

I think our collective goal should be to get the gov't out of our lives, not more into it.

11 posted on 12/01/2020 8:05:12 AM PST by econjack
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To: farming pharmer
There are a number of people who have argued that without net neutrality their ISP could cut off or charge extra for FreeRepublic. But they won't do that for cost since FR's bandwidth is minimal and costs the ISP nothing to carry. They can't do it to censor it like Twitter since they have no actual way to do that.

Click on https://45.79.56.181/tag/*/index and you will get a bunch of pointless warnings which you can bypass and then view FR without your ISP getting in the way. Similarly, you should add 8.8.8.8 or even better a non-google DNS server like one from this list https://www.lifewire.com/free-and-public-dns-servers-2626062 Your ISP can really only block your access by messing with DNS and you should never trust their DNS regardless and always use your own. They can block by messing with the routing tables but that's much more difficult and would ultimately fail. Finally they can block like AOL or China by putting you behind a firewall. But that would be rejected and they would go out of business.

In short, net neutrality is for lazy people who think that the government will protect them from ISP hanky panky. But in the long run the opposite is true, the government and ISPs will collude to limit your internet freedom. The only way around it is to be knowledgeable.

13 posted on 12/01/2020 8:07:46 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: farming pharmer

I had high hopes, for Ajit.

He’s been a let down, imo.


14 posted on 12/01/2020 8:11:13 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: farming pharmer

The Net Neutrality Act makes the Internet neutral like the Affordable Healthcare Act made healthcare affordable.


34 posted on 12/01/2020 8:42:12 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: farming pharmer

All you to know about Net Neutrality is that Obama got $100 million from Netflix.

Netflix is an over the top provider of internet services — movies, TV, etc.

Obama delivered net neutrality for Netflix and was paid a reword accordingly.

The problem with Netflix is they expect to pay zero fees when the ability to deliver the service needs to be paid for by telecoms and ISPs who actually own networks and raise the money to support them and buy wires, cables, switches for which Netflix wouldn’t exist.

So net neutrality was always a con to stiff the companies providing the satellites, cables, and high speed internet services.

People need to pay for what that use. Otherwise we become like California where they have rolling blackouts because they refuse to pay Pacific Electric to maintain their network properly to prevent fire and other natural disasters from damaging the lines.


40 posted on 12/01/2020 9:35:23 AM PST by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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To: farming pharmer

Net neutrality...Obamacare for the internet.


41 posted on 12/01/2020 9:36:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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