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China's Navy Wants Aircraft Carrier-Based Stealth Fighters
https://nationalinterest.org/ ^ | November 30, 2020 | by Kris Osborn

Posted on 11/30/2020 11:27:14 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

ere's What You Need to Know: A carrier-launched fifth-generation stealth fighter would massively expand China’s ability to project power internationally.

China is sending a fighter jet and helicopter armed aircraft carrier to the South China Sea as part of an overt demonstration to show that its first indigenously-built aircraft carrier, the Shandong, is ready for war.

A report in The Global Times references a CCTV video showing Chinese J-15 fighters and Z-9S helicopters taking off from the deck of the Shandong, conducting combat training operations and live-fire attack drills.

While there are many unknowns with China’s first home-built carrier, it does appear to massively increase the country’s power-projection possibilities, bringing new Pacific-area and international threat possibilities to the U.S. Navy.

One of these threat possibilities includes the possibility that China is now building a new, carrier-launched variant of its fifth-generation J-31 stealth fighter to rival the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B and Navy F-35C.

An expeditionary fifth-generation stealth fighter able to operate from Chinese amphibious ships and aircraft carriers does bring new attack possibilities for maritime commanders seeking to project power. The possibility certainly does align with China’s well-known work to build its own indigenous fleet of aircraft carriers.

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1 posted on 11/30/2020 11:27:14 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

Wanting something and having it are two different things....

To date, they cannot design a Gen 4 carrier aircraft with range or payload. It is a big jump to get there and adding stealth into the equation further complicates things.

They will get there eventually, but by any objective measure without Gateway Pundit levels of hyperbole by the defense industry in the US, China’s Air Force would be DESTROYED by Western powers. They are WAY BEHIND in the air (and on the ocean) when it comes to force projection.


2 posted on 11/30/2020 11:32:28 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer

China can already take out the U.S. in the Pacific.

https://breakingdefense.com/2020/09/pacom-chief-warns-of-threat-to-guam-china-presses-hard/

Worse than that, especially under a Biden administration, our military will be woefully unprepared and have a lack of training and proper military equipment to fight China.

Biden is going to give up Taiwan without a shot because he has no ability to counter China and will get no support from the progressive liberals for a war for a country nobody knows anything about.


3 posted on 11/30/2020 11:37:47 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: RomanSoldier19

Only when they can put a carrier battle group 7,000 miles from home and keep them operating independently for 200 days can they “project power internationally”.

Not worried.


4 posted on 11/30/2020 11:38:39 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: RomanSoldier19

BFD

No carrier group

Target rich...


5 posted on 11/30/2020 11:43:30 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Mariner

Today they just want the entire South China Sea and Taiwan.


6 posted on 11/30/2020 11:43:39 AM PST by Little Ray (The Left and Right no longer have anything in common. A House divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

They’re gonna need a bigger boat.....................


7 posted on 11/30/2020 11:44:41 AM PST by Red Badger (Democrats cheat. ... It's what they do. ... GUARANTEED! ... Even if it's not necessary!....)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Americans should buy more cheap Christmas crap to help them reach their goal.
</sarcasm>


8 posted on 11/30/2020 11:45:15 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Until they can get a catapult launch system for their carriers, they are mostly a paper tiger in power projection beyond their region. Their conventional jets have to launch with minimal munitions and fuel as it is, let alone a stealth jet.


9 posted on 11/30/2020 11:45:46 AM PST by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . . )
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To: Repeal The 17th

I think we could arrange to send them a squadron or two of ours.
It would be a teachable moment for them.

rofl...


10 posted on 11/30/2020 11:47:14 AM PST by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they use it)
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To: Little Ray

And TOMORROW they want...

They make claims no one will respect because there are other nations lining that area and they have claims, plus international waters limits are 12 miles off the coast, so

tough shiite for them


11 posted on 11/30/2020 11:54:26 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Godzilla

you mean their russian jets, or their copies of their russian jets...?


12 posted on 11/30/2020 11:55:10 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: volunbeer

however their carrier killer missile just successfully hit a moving ship


13 posted on 11/30/2020 11:55:47 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: volunbeer

China’s strategy against US force projection is area denial, specifically, a massive force of antiship missiles. In that manner, China intends to counter US naval air strength.


14 posted on 11/30/2020 12:01:48 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Yes, they intend on using anti-ship missiles. However, we will gain air superiority and with our capability to project air power with tankers from bases within the region there is no reason for our ships to get within range. The Navy is obsessed with carriers and they are massive and mighty machines of war, but frankly to me, their risks against near peer foes because of the ability of missiles makes them a bad bet. A multi-billion dollar assets that can be taken out by a $100,000 missile should never be in range of those missiles.

By using secure land bases and keeping our carriers out of the range of such missiles we can use our aerial refueling and minimize the risks. Yes, you will have fewer sorties, but over time I believe our Air Force and Navy have the advantage. The crux of it is that early in any conflict with China we would NOT want our ships within range of the mainland. We can inflict a lot of damage at distance if we are patient with few losses.


15 posted on 11/30/2020 12:13:33 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: PIF

“however their carrier killer missile just successfully hit a moving ship”

Citation?

That would be a first.


16 posted on 11/30/2020 12:18:53 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: kaehurowing

It doesn’t matter what China’s military can or can’t do, if a Biden Administration will let them do as they please without response.


17 posted on 11/30/2020 12:23:06 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Mariner

Don’t have but I believe it was posted recently on FR -easy to overlook that stuff with all the election crap


18 posted on 11/30/2020 12:33:12 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

As far as I know China has never hit a moving target at sea with their “carrier killer”.

In fact, they have never tried.

It’s another of their cartoon weapon systems.


19 posted on 11/30/2020 12:42:23 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The Chinese have a reputation for malevolent patience. They want the South China Sea. If Biden wins, they’re golden. If not there is always next election.
When they get the South China Sea, they start strangling Taiwan’s commerce. Harass it. Arrange ‘accidents.’
Same for other nations surrounding the SCS.
Of course the PRC’s biggest mistake was to crush Hong Kong - after all, if that is how they keep a bargain, why would the Taiwanese believe any promises about autonomy?


20 posted on 11/30/2020 12:49:10 PM PST by Little Ray (The Left and Right no longer have anything in common. A House divided against itself cannot stand.)
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