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Andrew Cuomo Calls Supreme Court’s Church Lockdown Ruling ‘Irrelevant’
breitbart ^ | 26 Nov 2020 | JOSHUA CAPLAN

Posted on 11/27/2020 2:22:41 AM PST by MarvinStinson

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To: MayflowerMadam
So I guess Cuomo can ignore SCOTUS and continue doing what he’s doing. What would be the repercussions? Any at all?

Expect in the future Democrats will ignore court rulings they don't like, citing "stolen seats" as their reason.

Also expect they will go unchallenged.

61 posted on 11/27/2020 9:07:14 AM PST by Drew68
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To: BobL

No I am not saying “Let the Dems have the country” at all. I’m saying that, if this election is allowed to be stolen when Trump won by such huge margins that EVERYONE sees - they will effectively have STOLEN the country and will be able to steal the January elections in GA (which republicans already won) no matter HOW MANY PEOPLE turn out to vote legally.

Once they STEAL control of the senate, they can begin trashing the constitution and taking away all of our freedoms. NOW IS THE TIME TO FIGHT, because if you are willing to disregard this theft and move on to the next one, our country is over.


62 posted on 11/27/2020 9:16:09 AM PST by Saveourcountry
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To: AAABEST

I don’t know who your source material was, but they are completely off. Not only did Martin work directly in the Vatican himself with direct access to two popes, he had many direct sources. He not only performed hundreds of exorcisms himself, he knew of thousands of other cases through his priest network. Moreover, he was highly sought out by those victims and families who needed the service. His book, Windswept House was “faction.“ It was real characters with different names describing real events. You don’t take on the corrupt Vatican and not have an army of critics descend upon you.


63 posted on 11/27/2020 9:16:55 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
I don’t know who your source material was, but they are completely off. Not only did Martin work directly in the Vatican himself with direct access to two popes, he had many direct sources. He not only performed hundreds of exorcisms himself, he knew of thousands of other cases through his priest network.

A priest stripped of his faculties CANNOT exorcisms. Period, end of story. Martin's career as a priest ended in Rome during Vatican II, when, among other things, he fled the Jesuits after he was found to be in an adulterous relationship with the wife of a Time Magazine correspondent. That he was defrocked in the late 60s is without question.

He also, at that time, wrote secretly under a pen name for the American Jewish Committee and other periodicals promoting VII. He was a leftist who disgraced himself who made up a lot of crap about himself and others to sell books.

Not to dis you, but objectively speaking you obviously have very little knowledge of the man, and you don't know what a real exorcist is.

Do your homework on the man - his "works" are nothing but pure trash.

64 posted on 11/27/2020 9:28:30 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Grampa Dave

Democrat leadership at it’s finest.


65 posted on 11/27/2020 10:08:28 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Vaduz
Democrat leadership at it’s finest.
66 posted on 11/27/2020 11:12:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave (There was never a Biden win! It was stolen from Trump and us! When, will Biden Concede?)
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To: SkyPilot

SkyPilot, yes! I read that one. Father Martin’s book is exactly as you describe it. And I believe him about many influential people. The Cuomos are neither talented nor intelligent, more thugs than anything else, so it makes sense that they are among them. Will look for that interview, thank you.


67 posted on 11/27/2020 1:15:29 PM PST by AmericanMermaid
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To: AAABEST
A priest stripped of his faculties CANNOT exorcisms. Period, end of story

He remained a priest. He said daily Mass. He was given relief of his vows of obedience and poverty in 1964 after asking permission - and this was granted by Pope Paul VI. He was also a close friend of Pope John XXII.

I am an ex-Catholic and now a born again Christian. I will tell you that the "permission" of the Catholic church has nothing really to do with the power over the demonic. It is the name and power of Jesus Christ that they must answer to. I have seen deliverances from the demonic performed by Christians using the name and authority of Jesus Christ.

In the interviews I have listened to with Martin, he said he had to obtain permission from the Catholic church to perform exorcisms. I don't know what source you are using to say that he didn't.

I have heard the accusations of Robert Blair Kaiser (a former Jesuit) who said Martin had an affair with his wife. He as at best a stringer for Time - he was not on the regular staff of the magazine (although he touted that title all the time). I don't know if the allegation of the affair with Martin and his wife is true or not. Even if true, we are all sinners (Romans 3:23). Even you and me.

In the movie "Hostage to the Devil", I thought Kaiser came across as a vindictive liar himself - but that is only my perception.

He was a leftist who disgraced himself who made up a lot of crap about himself and others to sell books.

A leftist? What is the proof of that, or these other things you are saying?

I think you and I should agree to disagree on this subject.

68 posted on 11/27/2020 1:25:21 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
In the movie "Hostage to the Devil", I thought Kaiser came across as a vindictive liar himself - but that is only my perception.

I have spoken with Kaiser personally and the affair is documented by many others, including in ecclesiastic memos and by the woman in question. It's also documented that Martin writing under pen names such as "Michael Serafian" and "Pushkin" in a role as insider/mole writing for pubs like Commentary - pushing for the worst reforms during Vatican II.

In the interviews I have listened to with Martin, he said he had to obtain permission from the Catholic church to perform exorcisms. I don't know what source you are using to say that he didn't

You heard that from HIM. Despite the ignorance of his readers, it was not possible for Martin to be performing any exorcisms under any circumstances. He was a NOBODY to Rome after the late 60s. Then he showed up in NYC partying with the liberal/leftist elites and writing books.

The half-baked faery-tale HE started that he lost his faculties after "asking permission" is laughable BS. He absconded from the Jesuits after the massive scandals he caused while in Rome - then shortly thereafter started writing books pretending he was some Vatican sage.

I am an ex-Catholic and now a born again Christian.

No, you're a Catholic and you will be one for the rest of your natural life. Whatever else you've heard, if you were baptized a Catholic, it is indelible. It's just a matter of what kind of Catholic you are when you die.

I think you and I should agree to disagree on this subject.

Okay, but it would be much better for you if you agreed to learn what a Catholic exorcist is, who Michael Serafian (and Pushkin) was and why there's no such thing as an ex-Catholic.

69 posted on 11/27/2020 2:08:03 PM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: AAABEST

No. I am not a Catholic any more. I am a sinner saved by Christ alone, through faith alone. Also, it kind of figures you spoke with Kaiser. Friend of yours? And yes, Martin told Art Bell he had permissions for his exorcisms.


70 posted on 11/27/2020 2:32:10 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
Martin told Art Bell...

You MUST realize how that sounds.

No, I'm not friends with Kaiser and like you, don't find him very likeable, but he and his family really did get totally fk'd over by Martin. Even taking Kaiser's extensive witness out of it, go read some the first-hand accounts, including the wife's own Bishop's testimony, written on William and Mary College letterhead.

Anyway, thank you for listening. Hope I was able to shed some light and that you too appreciated the conversation.

71 posted on 11/27/2020 3:49:46 PM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: AAABEST
Thanks for the civil reply. I don’t think him talking to Art Bell sounds stupid at all. Martin gave him hours and hours over several interviews. You can find them all on YouTube.

Take care.

72 posted on 11/27/2020 4:02:55 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: MarvinStinson

Nobody hugs and kisses or sings at the top of their voice in a liquor store or bike shop while remaining there for an hour or an hour and a half.


73 posted on 11/27/2020 4:11:07 PM PST by firebrand ( )
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To: BobL

Roberts never votes lib on 2A issues. Was that part of a deal with the Dems? Or to keep the arms on both sides, since the right will never ever give up their arms?


74 posted on 11/27/2020 4:20:30 PM PST by firebrand ( )
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To: SkyPilot

I once met Martin.

I’ve read some of his work, and I know that he struggled to remove the communists from the Jesuit order. I felt that it made him a saint, and I once went into a Catholic church, in desperation (since I too am no longer Catholic), and asked for his intervention, since I needed a miracle.

I got one. Immediately. I heard a voice that seemed to come from the choir loft behind me except that there was nobody up there. The voice called me by name and said something about a miracle—I can’t remember the exact words now.

I left the church building and hadn’t even walked half a block when I ran right into someone who got me a job, which was the answer to the prayer.

I have actually been thinking of inquiring whether there is any kind of movement to make him a saint officially, not that it matters.


75 posted on 11/27/2020 4:42:32 PM PST by firebrand ( )
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To: firebrand

Wow. Thanks for sharing your story.


76 posted on 11/27/2020 4:47:55 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Grampa Dave

They never get any better rot can’t be cured.


77 posted on 11/28/2020 7:42:15 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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Sorry to bump this late, but this guy is an out-and-out communist. Not only has he directly had a hand in committing crimes against humanity, he wants to directly violate peoples’ rights to worship as they see fit, as enumerated in the First Amendment.


78 posted on 11/29/2020 9:38:28 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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