Posted on 11/24/2020 10:59:46 AM PST by Hostage
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Joint Session Challenges to Electoral Vote Returns
While the tellers announce the results, Members may object to the returns from any individual state as they are announced. Objections to individual state returns must be made in writing by at least one Member each of the Senate and House of Representatives. If an objection meets these requirements, the joint session recesses and the two houses separate and debate the question in their respective chambers for a maximum of two hours. The two houses then vote separately to accept or reject the objection. They then reassemble in joint session, and announce the results of their respective votes. An objection to a state’s electoral vote must be approved by both houses in order for any contested votes to be excluded. For additional information, see CRS Report RL32717, Counting Electoral Votes: An Overview of Procedures at the Joint Session, Including Objections by Members of Congress, coordinated by Elizabeth Rybicki and L. Paige Whitaker.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11641
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yes the people will SPEAK. If officials can’t count votes we’ll count them.
Do ya think Washington being surrounded by a couple million armed militia while they vote could give them the balls to do the right thing? I am sure we could preposition a couple roofing trucks of tar and semi’s of feathers like those bricks on pallets that mysteriously were left right before the antifa riots. We could even call it the “mostly peaceful counting of the Electoral votes”.
Sure. In an alternate universe, video game world.
In our real world universe, in 2020...never happen.
Perhaps it inches closer to that after the reality of #39 above comes to pass.
But not now...not within the next 3 months.
The overwhelming vast majority of the country is giving in to either wearing a face diaper, "social distancing," or having their business curtailed or shut down completely.
As insane/unconstitutional/sad/maddening/crappy as 2020 has been for patriots..."we" haven't hit rock bottom yet.
> “Nancy Pelosi and her crew”
Deflection. She is weaker than ever because as I said before her majority margin is razor thin and there are 12 Democrats that have voted against here recently and will do so again as their constituency is breathing fire down their necks because they have gone over to Trump. In the Problem Solvers caucus of two months ago, she held a vote to get around them and only 217 of her 232 Democrats joined her, a weakening of her power, a mutiny against her lame leadership.
And if Biden doesn’t arrive with 270 or loses it at the Joint Congress, then Ugly Nancy gets to vote with her delegation from California and that’s it, one vote for the whole bunch, on the floor of the House, no interference by Dominion demons.
> “Or that Romney and other senators like him will?”
Romney will vote like the coward he is and if he’s facing some real nasty patriot Americans looking for blood, you better believe he will be there to offer sweet kisses on their hairy cheeks.
> “The 4 year coup attemptS against Trump did not occur at the state legislative level.”
Tell that to the people of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and others. As of today there are ZERO state legislators willing to stick their necks out to do the right thing.
The thesis is that if the People descend on DC in early January, camp out on the Mall and shake the Halls of Congress, there are going to be written objections in the Joint Session and there is going to be a vote on those objections.
And if Congress ignores the People, I don’t want to hear again from morons touting the Constitution because it won’t be worth wiping your behind with.
While I hope it is that simple, I dread that the rats will change the laws so they cannot be stopped from here on out!
While I hope it is that simple, I dread that the rats will change the laws so they cannot be stopped from here on out!
Oh, and as far as Romney goes...he voted to impeach Trump. Zero chance he votes Trump back in.
The numbers just aren't there and the fed reps have a history of shafting their constituents. They feel removed, and are, from the people.
> “Good luck getting Pelosi to put Trump back in power.”
I never said any such thing. Of course she will vote against any objections to certifying Biden.
But her control over others is now very weak so it’s not a sure thing she can stop objections.
You give her way too much credit. You sound like a defeatist.
One thing for sure is that if the People sit idly by and watch, they will lose the republic because Dominion will be ‘installing’ every critical political slot from now on.
I would tend to disagree. I think the hastily pulled together DC rally was impressive. Doing 10x that with a few weeks planning instead of hours ... might get more patriots from farther away. By the time I learned of the rally it was 48 hours away and ... I still have a job and I live 2800 miles away. Tell me to be there and bring my 2A ... and I am driving (cause I dont want them lost on the plane), but I can be there in 4-5 days, and yes, I would be there with as many of my friends as we could pack in.
The fact that it didn't happen a couple months ago should tell you something. Add to that the fact that the FBI and Justice concealing Hunter's laptop for almost a year and there is little chance any charges will be forthcoming, well except for charges against the Trump family.
First, A state election is not compromised until it is proven in a court of law. Sorry to have to break that bit of reality to you but it is true.
We can call it the Candy Land Fairy takeover of the Federal Government or Trump’s Administration, whatever you want to call it, however, if it is not proven or more importantly the perception of a coup d’etat is not there, then it never happened until it is revealed it happened. Again that is the reality we live in today.
So we all can cry until the cows come home that the election was fraudulent it was compromised, Stacey Abrams had a threesome with AOC and Omar. It still won’t change the fact that until it has been adjudicated in a court the election is and will be considered valid.
Does that mean that the election was compromised by the powers that be. I believe it, you believe itm but that is not good enough.
The election is NOT compromised until it has been deemed to be so legally. Otherwise it is just conspiracy tripe in the eyes of the world. Who, I remind you, are currently congratulating Biden, the supposed winner.
You see the US Constitution has these things called “checks and balances” between the three branches of government. And even though we the people say there is a one eyed one horn purple people eater running amok the final bastion of the voice of the people is the people we put in office to sort these things out. We gave them this responsibility. Now the only voice the people retain is also outlined in the US Constitution and that is the duty of the citizenry to overthrow a corrupt government. As far as I see it, a great many are no where near that point yet. Until we are, then this election, whether it was stolen or not and I do not believe “Biden” stole it, I believe bummer had a major hand in it just from the primaries alone, whether this election was stolen, the process has to play out by the people we elected and they appointed to do so.
I call republicans repubes and democrats demoncraps, think I side with repubes or demoncraps and I certainly don’t side with libtards.
You have to prove Trump overwhemingly you can’t just say he did. Well you can say it but then you have to back up the claim with the process to prove he won overwhemingly. The computer software counted ballots that were interspersed with illegal ballots. How do you know which ones are the illegal ones from the legal ones? You don’t and by eyesight you won’t. The degree of forensics it will take and the cost involved is more than anyone is willing to wait on or pay for.
The President can tweet anything he wants. Doesn’t make it true.
It’s funny people rely on their government when it is convenient to them and when its not convenient will say everything under the sun to denigrate it. Either you believe and trust in the Ged Government and local governments or you don’t. It is called hypocrisy any other way.
And you thought your bit of reality was actual reality.
What is treason? Per the US Constitution: Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court. What war are we in? War can only be declared by Congress per the US Constitution.
Now if you had said sedition, I might have agreed with you on that. But then again we can see it and we can say something about it but this is the United States and there is this thing called due process. Until the people being accused have their due process, then they haven’t committed it. Remember people, repube or demoncrap or libtard, are innocent until proven guilty. No one has committed treason because we are not at war. People might have committed sedition but it needs to be proven that they are guilty of doing so.
Until you see it this way, you will never be able to fight a demoncrap other than have a shouting match back and forth. People want things now, yesterday. Not the way the world works. Even a 24 hour news cycle (which is changed how people think like it or not) can’t give it to you now or yesterday.
People need to learn and adapt and they are not they are being stubborn and mule headed. Until we use what we are getting we will never reach the goal line. Trump was great but then what? HE was just one person/ We have too many panty wastes in office and too many panty wastes voting for these people. Until that changes we will never make America Great Again. I have always wondered what would happen when Trump either got voted out of office, removed from office or could no longer run for office. My question has been answered. Hope you had a nice 4-year vacation from the lunacy of Washington and the states.
> “First, A state election is not compromised until it is proven in a court of law.”
Who said it was or wasn’t? Courts don’t make law and they don’t tell people what to think or do, even though they think they govern, they don’t, not in this country.
Courts can only tell an individual what is decided if they have jurisdiction over the individual and even then they don’t have maximum power even if they think they do.
The fact is that there are upwards of 23,000 of these vote fraud machines in our election system owned or provided in large part by foreign interests and these machines are prone to fraud and have executed fraud.
And you’re defending state elections as somehow impenetrable even as federal and state elections are often conjoined using the same machines?
I can’t read what you write because it’s filled with “it never happened”. Yeah sure, if one gets their information from liar media then “it never happened”.
Even if there is solid evidence, “it never happened”.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf
The Trump cases haven’t even hit federal courts yet but they are going there at breakneck speed. Third circuit has granted emergency hearings. It’s just getting started.
Eff the state court judges in Democrat sh*tholes, they are corrupt as hell. They were never expected to give the Trump campaign fair hearings. The legal strategy has always been to race past the idiot state judges in democrat states and get into the federal circuits asap.
And we’re there, now.
Man you are so friggin confused on how law is made. You also need to go back to the Constitutions to see the authority it vests in the Courts. Actually the courts do have the authority to adjudicate on the conflicts that arise and can rule an election is contested (which you all compromised). The Legislature can also determine if an election is compromised.
You are making an accusation without proof then saying based on your opinion it is true. Show proof that it happened.
“And you’re defending state elections as somehow impenetrable even as federal and state elections are often conjoined using the same machines?”
Man you very effing ignorant aren’t you about the US Constitution and elections. Via the US Constitution, all elections are up to the states In Article II Section I Paragraph 2 of the US Constitution, it is clear the states’ legislature are the ones who determine the election process.
You said there is solid evidence. Where? The Courts are the final arbiters of what constitutes “solid evidence” in this case. If Trump’s legal team cannot bring “solid evidence” then the cannot prove something happened because all it it becomes is a “he said she said” argument.
Why do you think Trump spent the last three and half years filling vacancies in the courts? Because they were there? Whether a judge gives a Trump a fair hearing can only be remedied by putting judges in the courts that will.
Man repubes are just as bad as demoncraps when it comes to TDS.
You can go around saying that this or that happened all day long but until it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt then there will always be the dark cloud over the accusation that it “never happened”.
Just because you made up your mind doesn’t mean the panty waste snowflake made up their mind it happened and so in their mind they will tell you it never happened. That is who have to convince that it happened. And the panty waste snowflake is not going to believe you or anyone else that dos not sit as a judge. If you don’t get that you never will.
Sure keep blaming the machines and keep thinking that it was the voting machines that was the culprit. Why haven’t you blanedd the software which is on more than 23K machines. Why haven’t you blamed how the data taken at the polls was transmitted over the internet. The fraud didn’t occur at the time the ballot it was cast. It occurred in the count which means after the mail-in ballot was scanned. This was done through software. It was done through bringing in illegal cast ballots.
There has been countless YOUTUBE videos on how the count changed on the television screen. This happened during the count. Yes, there was fraud occurring on multiple levels with a vast majority occurring during the counting process of the election process. And it is up to Trump and his team to prove it and the only place you can do that is in a court. The Courts do not make the law but they can make a ruling that the Election was compromised. That isn’t them making a law it is them saying the evidence proves that the election was compromised. Or why the hell would Trump and his team be fighting this crap in court. Your argument is convoluted. I stated that the court decides on whether the election is compromised. Then you state the court can;t make the laws but yet we need to fight this in a court. Your argument here is so convoluted that you aren’t sure up from down. You need to sit down take a deep breath and think with that lump that is three feet above your arse.
Quite right. Many of us have seen solid arguments defeated and terrible arguments prevail.
Without significant favorable results from the actions of record or those yet to be filed, I make our chances at 0% during the Joint Session and 50% at the various state legislatures.
(And I regard myself as an optimist.)
The two houses will not agree and preference is given to the slate of electors certified during the safe harbor period. That would be the one from the fraudulent secretary of state. What does SCOTUS do? Do they actually intervene and throw out a state’s electoral votes if there is overwhelming fraud? If they do, does the 270 number get reduced?
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