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Trump 'wants to END birthright citizenship before he leaves office': President could strip immigration rights from US-born babies as administration pushes bold policies in his final weeks
UK Daily Mail ^ | November 21 2020 | ANDREW COURT

Posted on 11/20/2020 11:46:10 PM PST by knighthawk

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To: Flavious_Maximus
Tourist who come here are not under U.S. jurisdiction. They are foreign nationals, the same as illegals and anchor babies.

So if they break the law here then U.S. police can't arrest them?

21 posted on 11/21/2020 3:42:21 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Your trying to be clever but that is a specious argument.

Diplomats have immunity but can still be arrested. Foreign tourist come here as temporary guest. Illegals are less than that. They are de-facto criminals.

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/birthright-citizenship-fundamental-misunderstanding-the-14th-amendment


22 posted on 11/21/2020 4:23:06 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flavious_Maximus
Your trying to be clever but that is a specious argument.

I'm trying to point out that you apparently have no idea of what 'subject to the jurisdiction' actually means.

Diplomats have immunity but can still be arrested

No they can't. That's what the 'immunity' part of 'diplomatic immunity' means.

Foreign tourist come here as temporary guest.

Yes they do, and if they abuse that welcome and break the law then they can wind up staying here as long as their prison sentence lasts. That's because they're subject to the jurisdiction of our laws.

Illegals are less than that. They are de-facto criminals.

Which means they can be arrested, right? Then see above.

23 posted on 11/21/2020 4:56:02 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: knighthawk

This should have been done three years ago.


24 posted on 11/21/2020 5:09:06 AM PST by blam
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To: DoodleDawg

Diplomats can be arrested (i.e. taken into custody) until they can prove their immunity. It has happened many times, recently when a diplomat was arrested for shoplifting in a New York City department store.

As for the 14th amendment, here is an excerpt:

What’s more, the amendment is only articulating what is already established law, Sen. Howard said:

“The first amendment to section one, declaring that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside.’

“This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States.”

As for birthright citizenship, Sen. Howard said “foreigners” and “aliens” born on U.S. soil are, “of course,” not citizens:

“This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”


25 posted on 11/21/2020 5:15:23 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: knighthawk

You can’t retro a law like that. And you can’t do it by executive order. Wish the press weren’t morons. Even if this is what he wanted to do, he simply couldn’t and the whole story is stupid.


26 posted on 11/21/2020 5:16:53 AM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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Diplomats can be arrested (i.e. taken into custody) until they can prove their immunity. It has happened many times, recently when a diplomat was arrested for shoplifting in a New York City department store.

And what happened to him once immunity was established? Just curious.

27 posted on 11/21/2020 5:20:21 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: knighthawk

Hey Brits...President isn’t necessarily in “his final weeks”. It ain’t over till the fat lady sings.


28 posted on 11/21/2020 5:59:20 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: knighthawk

Final weeks in 2025? I think he can get it done before then.


29 posted on 11/21/2020 6:20:38 AM PST by Boomer (Leftists/Leftism ruins everything it touches. Leftism is a moral pestilence.)
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To: knighthawk

Here we are again getting worked up over Daily Rag articles using words like “reportedly” and “various sources”. Sheesh. Are we like the dumb kid who keeps falling for the same practical joke?


30 posted on 11/21/2020 7:17:00 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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You’re right, but I’m just going along with the popular meme that “if his margin was a little higher they could not have defrauded him” which is crap because their vote conversion scheme is set up to show a squeaker win no matter what the real result.


31 posted on 11/21/2020 7:24:34 AM PST by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: knighthawk

President Trump still needs to commit to the following -

The Deplorables want a Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement bill, missing since 1986 ONE TIME amnesty. Since that amnesty was granted already, a second amnesty is off the table. What remains is the enforcement the Democrats have disallowed since then.

The List of Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement, missing since 1986 goes like this -
1) southern barrier;
2) require eVerify to hire;
3) end all chain migration;
4) birthright per Minor v. Happersett (plural parents);
5) end work visas;
6) 10-year moratorium on all new applications for citizenship (40 years to allow workplace automation effects on downsizing population);
7) Set up an illegal aliens’ victim restitution fund.

Enactment of these provisions will motivate illegal aliens to SELF-deport, and remove colonizadors from our welfare rolls.


32 posted on 11/21/2020 8:27:53 AM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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Every immigrant lured here by Leftist “virtue” (besides criminals who are just escaping justice) is a detraction from the source countries’ community value. It’s theft from that country. In Mexico, do-good Leftists in the US have caused whole communities there to be critically short of adventurous & creative people, and those towns become subject to the deprivations of cartels without them.


33 posted on 11/21/2020 8:39:36 AM PST by Tellurian (Evil's pride and joy is Fear. It's second child is Deception.)
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To: DoodleDawg

nobody is flocking to them to become citizens and collect bennies

further no european country does it and they are the most libtard socialist welfare states in the world

its idiotic to keep this practice up

it only makes sense the kid is the citizen of their parents’ home country


34 posted on 11/21/2020 9:51:24 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: knighthawk

That would apply to Kamala Harris.......


35 posted on 11/21/2020 10:02:44 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: knighthawk

Stalin said that the voters are not important, the ones that count the votes are.

In like manner: Laws are not important now, the ones that enforce them or choose not to or decide how they are to be enforced are.

I hope Trump at least tries and is successful in destroying the absurd interpretation of the Constitution and ends this insanity of birthright citizenship. It makes a mockery of the real citizens rights.


36 posted on 11/21/2020 10:57:41 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: DoodleDawg

I see you are peddling your leftist trash again after your two month suspension.


37 posted on 11/21/2020 6:41:51 PM PST by TexasGurl24
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