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Historic congressional vote on decriminalizing marijuana could happen in December
Denver7 ^ | Nov 17, 2020 | Sam Cohen

Posted on 11/20/2020 8:12:52 AM PST by NobleFree

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1 posted on 11/20/2020 8:12:52 AM PST by NobleFree
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To: NobleFree

Will go in trash bag without the Senate.


2 posted on 11/20/2020 8:15:23 AM PST by boomop1 (term limits NOW)
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To: NobleFree

>>Other Schedule I drugs include heroin, LSD, ecstasy and peyote.

Oregon decriminalized heroin, LSD, and cocaine this November.


3 posted on 11/20/2020 8:18:05 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: NobleFree

I’m no drug-addled libertarian, but I fail to see how a “Schedule I drug” or a “Controlled Substances Act” has any basis in constitutional law.


4 posted on 11/20/2020 8:19:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: NobleFree

I’m biased because my mom was alcoholic and I’m very wary of any drug scene. A drug that is mildly hallucinogenic and that makes people slow and stupid is not harmless.


5 posted on 11/20/2020 8:21:23 AM PST by beejaa
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I’m biased because my mom was alcoholic and I’m very wary of any drug scene.

My uncle drank himself into a diaper and a wheelchair. Should we ban alcohol?

A drug that is mildly hallucinogenic and that makes people slow and stupid is not harmless.

Red herring - the argument for legalization is not that it's "harmless."

6 posted on 11/20/2020 8:25:45 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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I’m no drug-addled libertarian, but I fail to see how a “Schedule I drug” or a “Controlled Substances Act” has any basis in constitutional law.

Drug-addled libertarian!

Seriesly, federal drug laws, like most of the federal Leviathan, are founded on an FDR-era "substantial effect" test that has no basis in the language of the Constitution. True American conservatives cannot support this - although right-statists posing as conservatives do.

7 posted on 11/20/2020 8:29:31 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree; dainbramaged; TheStickman; Drew68; beaversmom; dljordan

Thank You for posting NobleFree.


8 posted on 11/20/2020 8:29:32 AM PST by KC_Lion
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To: NobleFree

The US is going to be like Somalis on Kat one day.

Never met a regular pot smoker who was worth a damn though the pro pot folks will spew out names like Elon Musk.


9 posted on 11/20/2020 8:34:48 AM PST by setter
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The liberal reading of the commerce clause allowed this. Before this all congress could do is ban sales across state lines, however now congress calls all commerce interstate commerce and can regulate anything.


10 posted on 11/20/2020 8:37:02 AM PST by LukeL
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Congress has no power to do this, per the 10th Amendment (reserving power to the States).

When Prohibition was enacted, it had to be adopted as a Constitutional Amendment; ditto with Repeal.

Now MJ is supposed to be treated as somehow in the purview of Congress?


11 posted on 11/20/2020 8:45:34 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: setter
The US is going to be like Somalis on Kat one day.

If we're not like them due to the legality of the stupefying drug alcohol, legality of marijuana won't do it either.

Never met a regular pot smoker who was worth a damn

Who you've met is not a validly extrapolatable subset of the population. And requiring people to be worth a damn is not a legitimate function of government, nor a federal authority granted by the Constitution.

12 posted on 11/20/2020 8:58:27 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: CondorFlight

I agree 100%, it was the FDR Courts that gave too much power to the feds. It is why a home garden can be regulated. Their logic is that by growing your own food, you are harming interstate commerce by not buying food and hence engaging in interstate commerce.


13 posted on 11/20/2020 9:03:40 AM PST by LukeL
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Sadly, we partly have Scalia to thank for that. He concurred with the liberal majority in Gonzales v. Raich, which held that the Controlled Substances Act was valid under the Commerce Clause, even when applied to an individual growing small amounts of marijuana for his own use. Scalia differed from the majority’s reasoning only in that he believed the CSA’s application in this case was authorized under the Necessary and Proper Clause rather than the Commerce Clause itself. O’Connor, Thomas, and Rehnquist dissented.


14 posted on 11/20/2020 9:37:05 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: NobleFree

I know a bunch of you FReepers conspire with the Left (like Antonin Scalia did) to corrupt the Interstate Commerce Clause to let the Left wing federal bureaucracy regulate everyone and everything, so that the Left will let you use it for your little religious war on drugs without disastrously amending the Constitution like your forebears did with alcohol.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY TO REGULATE OR BAN DRUGS EXCEPT CROSSING STATE LINES

THE SUPREME COURT HAS NO AUTHORITY TO SAY THEY DO (in Wickard v Filburn (1942)

except that many of YOU have conspired with the Left in every election since then to let them get away with it.

But you see many states legalizing and the feds doing nothing about it because you have made the Left so secure they almost don’t need you anymore, so you get big bureaucracy and no war on drugs.

Congratulations.


15 posted on 11/20/2020 10:00:07 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: beejaa
I’m biased because my mom was alcoholic and I’m very wary of any drug scene. A drug that is mildly hallucinogenic and that makes people slow and stupid is not harmless.

Those of us living in states where it has now been legal for years can attest to the fact that it has become big business and is causing great harm... especially to younger people and children. You can't drive around the block where we live without having your car filled with the skunk like foul odor of marijuana from the drivers in front of you. It is more than a nuisance... it has become a new definition of pestilence and is quickly becoming a grave threat to the future of this country as we decline into mediocrity.

16 posted on 11/20/2020 10:01:44 AM PST by fireman15
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Scalia was a leftist POS. He just looked conservative by comparison, except to Thomas. I want 9 Thomases.


17 posted on 11/20/2020 10:06:19 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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I know a bunch of you FReepers conspire with the Left (like Antonin Scalia did) to corrupt the Interstate Commerce Clause to let the Left wing federal bureaucracy regulate everyone and everything, so that the Left will let you use it for your little religious war on drugs [...]

But you see many states legalizing and the feds doing nothing about it because you have made the Left so secure they almost don’t need you anymore, so you get big bureaucracy and no war on drugs.

They sold their birthright for a mess of pottage - and now the pottage is being taken away. Serves them right.

18 posted on 11/20/2020 10:06:43 AM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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"I’m biased because my mom was alcoholic and I’m very wary of any drug scene. A drug that is mildly hallucinogenic and that makes people slow and stupid is not harmless."

Yes, and far worse mental problems over a short period of time. Most of the alcoholics now are dopers, too. And as for the canard from dopers about dopers being conservatives, red diaper doper babies haven't changed. They're as compulsively dishonest as before.

19 posted on 11/20/2020 10:15:23 AM PST by familyop (Educate your neighbors every year, not only during election years. Fight!)
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To: fireman15

You are wrong because you look only at marijuana and problems and statistics associated with it.

Everywhere marijuana has been legalized, marijuana has displaced alcohol and proven to be the lesser of two evils. The combined marijuana-alcohol accident and health statistics improve.

And if you say eliminate both evils, the result of that is worse than the problems you claim to want to fix.

Freedom is the right to sin and you can’t get past that.


20 posted on 11/20/2020 10:21:23 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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