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Michigan GOP again reverses course on certifying Wayne County election results (MI back in the game)
The New York Post ^ | November 19, 2020 | Emily Jacobs

Posted on 11/19/2020 6:26:28 AM PST by AAABEST

Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the two Republicans on the four-member board of canvassers, originally offered no explanation for why they changed course, but abruptly did Tuesday evening hours after voting against certification of the results.

By Wednesday night, Palmer and Hartmann had signed onto affidavits alleging that they had been pressured to certify the results under a false promise that Democrats would agree to an audit in Detriot, according to the Washington Post, which has reviewed the documents.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: certify; electors; michigan
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To: Professional

“You didn’t see the two videos? Just examples but man were they vicious”

They were also threatened with jail time and fines by our AG if they didn’t certify.


41 posted on 11/19/2020 7:01:55 AM PST by MKNIT20
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To: a fool in paradise
So in local news there was NO reporting on the local and state races in Detroit/Wayne Co. until after midnight?

Wayne may have been updating vote counts on their local county website before then. But the Secretary of State didn't receive Wayne's totals until easily a day later (if not more). So we were looking at SOS and seeing Trump up by a couple hundred thousand votes with 46-49 counties reporting. One of those three remaining was Wayne.

The media was reporting a tightening in MI which was not reflecting on the SOS website. So where we were seeing a 3% or more lead for Trump we were not following the local Wayne count that hadn't been sent up yet.

Once Wayne submitted, we got that sudden "bump" in the Biden vote total that we've seen many here represent graphically. Their graphs show Trump lead, Trump lead, Trump lead, then WHACK sudden Biden bump and subsequent lead.

I DO believe that Wayne's vote was corrupted and needs a full audit. But I also believe that a lot of Trump voting districts were corrupted as well.

I stated earlier, if I were going to cheat, I'd use the "Dominion Method" (copyright pending) in strong Trump areas. I'd take a 65-35 Trump lead and skew it down to 58-42 and rack of thousands upon thousands of votes that they'd never even bother looking for (because they won the district by 16). As a computer programmer, that's how I'D do it.

To me, I pin my best hopes on this all coming down to Dominion. I believe the courts should be petitioned to order a full recount, audit, and recanvas of every district that used Dominion software. In every state regardless. I believe that Dominion software was likely used to facilitate the overthrow of our government and it is THAT serious. Modifying one bit of source code to throw an election is a way easier and way cheaper way to bring down an entire system of government.

If Trump's lawyers have iron-clad hard evidence against Dominion, then that's where they should be focused IMO. And Dominion needs to be challenged everywhere and eventually destroyed if shown to have manipulated vote totals.
42 posted on 11/19/2020 7:02:32 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: sauropod

Third: Abraham Aiyash.


43 posted on 11/19/2020 7:06:06 AM PST by sauropod (Let them eat kale. I will not comply. Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis. This is how Democracy dies.)
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To: Safrguns

“If we take Wayne county completely out of the count, does that swing things to Trump significantly?”

Trump and James landslides without the disputed Detroit precincts.

Michigan is a DEEP red state without Wayne County (Detroit). The only other populous blue areas are Ann Arbor, Flint, and Oakland County. They don’t come anywhere close to carrying the state for the enemy.


44 posted on 11/19/2020 7:07:01 AM PST by MKNIT20
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To: Alas Babylon!

STart a chant -

F-E-C, deCERTIFY the D-N-C!

F-E-C, deCERTIFY the D-N-C!

F-E-C, deCERTIFY the D-N-C!


45 posted on 11/19/2020 7:08:32 AM PST by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: mmichaels1970

From the mathematical graphing I have seen, your thought is exactly how the cheat was done. The more red the district the more votes stripped from Trump and given to biden.


46 posted on 11/19/2020 7:15:24 AM PST by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: mmichaels1970

I agree with you. The fraud was multifaceted, making it hard to pin down. It started with the same old same old - Dems voting the dead, ballot harvesting, etc. - but the ace in the hole was always the computerized tabulation system. And when they knew they needed it, they threw the switch and set it in motion.

That said, there must have been other coordination. Things such as the refusal to let GOP poll watchers monitor certain areas and the sudden, coordinated shut downs of the manual counting certainly indicate that they had a plan. It must have been known, although not necessarily in the details, to whatever Dem operatives were issuing the orders to state and county Dem election authorities.


47 posted on 11/19/2020 7:33:04 AM PST by livius ( )
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To: MKNIT20
They were also threatened with jail time and fines by our AG if they didn’t certify.

Did not know that. Nessel is such a POS.

Do you by chance have a link for that?
48 posted on 11/19/2020 7:34:24 AM PST by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: Safrguns

Michigan was never out of the game!


49 posted on 11/19/2020 7:52:32 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: AAABEST

Pressured to certify the results under a false promise that Democrats would agree to an audit in Detroit.

That smells like a Ted Kennedy act tell them what they want to hear and stick it to them.
Democrats can’t be trusted even if it’s in writing you never win the wording and fuzzy fine print game.
The own the media with so called perks booze drugs sex parties...............................................


50 posted on 11/19/2020 8:28:30 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: AAABEST

The question then becomes whether having certified the vote they can then change their mind. And even if they do, can’t the state election canvasing board still certify the results without them?


51 posted on 11/19/2020 8:35:30 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: mmichaels1970

thousands of fraudulent votes are still fakes

this was 2016
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/12/records-many-votes-detroits-precincts/95363314/
Records: Too many votes in 37% of Detroit’s precincts
Joel Kurth, and Jonathan OostingThe Detroit News

Overall, state records show 10.6 percent of the precincts in the 22 counties that began the retabulation process couldn’t be recounted because of state law that bars recounts for unbalanced precincts or ones with broken seals...

...The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.

...The Detroit News last week was first to report that more than half of Detroit would be ineligible for the recount because of the irregularities. The results were based on county reports obtained by The News...


52 posted on 11/19/2020 8:48:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: farming pharmer

“Do you by chance have a link for that?”

I had originally heard it while flipping radio stations and Googled it when I got home. That initial search turned up several references to Nessel, but (strangely enough) I can’t find them today.

I’m pretty sure I bookmarked a thread specifically quoting her on this site. I’m trying to find that quote, but I’ve got hundreds of bookmarks on the election I’m trying to sort through.

In the meantime, here’s a link that makes reference to “legal threats” (criminal) from various democrat characters.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/michigan-gop-canvassers-under-pressure-ignore-votes-help-trump


53 posted on 11/19/2020 8:50:13 AM PST by MKNIT20
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To: MKNIT20

Mind Blowing that it has been tolerated like this.


54 posted on 11/19/2020 9:05:31 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: MKNIT20
Thanks. I don't doubt for a minute that our AG would make threats against a lawful individual.

A few month ago, she was threatening a jounalist/reporter for exposing some sort of fraud.

If anybody's going to get impeached, it should be her first.
55 posted on 11/19/2020 9:35:59 AM PST by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: AAABEST
Never believe a Democrat promise to do something in the future in exchange for you doing something now.

-PJ

56 posted on 11/19/2020 9:40:33 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: farming pharmer

“A few month ago, she was threatening a jounalist/reporter for exposing some sort of fraud.”

Yeah - that was the #DetroitLeaks video. It’s still floating around the Internet, but BigTech has been aggressively censoring it. If it was authentic, it was a pretty damning recording of a training session for election workers (I think it was for Detroit precincts).

The “instructor” went through a laundry list of how to handle Republican observers, how to handle questionable ballots and objections. Worth a listen if anybody’s curious. Sounded legit to me, but who knows.

She didn’t deny the authenticity of the recording, only that he had 2 specific inaccuracies and some general facts taken “out of context”. She threatened criminal actions if the content and all links/references weren’t removed.


57 posted on 11/19/2020 12:29:04 PM PST by MKNIT20
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